So Why Can't Peyton Do This In the Playoffs

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You compare Peyton's play to some of the "greats" and he actually ends up on top. Did yall watch Elway in the playoffs? Marino? Young? Favre? All great QBs but they did struggle at points. But nikkaz wanna rag on Peyton who took a useless ass franchise and made them relevant early in his career. Dude has had to outscore other teams his entire career cuz he never had the D (except his super bowl win season). Then throw in his dumb ass kicker...dude gets mad props from me. Nikkaz wanna crucify him for a few bad games but will prop up the "greats" as if they haven't had the same games. Elway took all kinds of criticism beforehand choking in big games...then in comes Shanny, a good D and a record breaking RB and Superbowls!!! But Peyton's a bum cuz he didn't have video game numberss in the playoffs.:upsetfavre:

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D was solid\good enough from about 05-10....Early in his career, the D was atrocious.....But there was a 4-5 year stretch where the D was solid, especially the way the offense was clicking back then

And I'm a Peyton stan in every since of the word
 

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So Peyton Manning doesn't have memorable playoff performances? Your whole statement is based off the premise Peyton hasn't ever had a good playoff game. He has 5 touchdown playoff games, led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history, and won superbowl MVP. He has more good games in the playoffs than poor ones. Haters just have selective memory.



post stats. prove that Peyton is the only QB mentioned with the all time greats who playoff stats took a dip from his regular season one. I'm still waiting on YOU to do that.
I never said he was the only one, dumbass. You're lame attempts to constantly change people's arguments is tiring. YOU're the one that said QB's don't have better stats in the playoffs and you got played the fukk out. Stop it.
 

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:wtf: wtf are you babbling about ? I never said he never had a good playoff game. we're talking about aggregate, you know, career numbers in the playoffs
Dude is struggling so hard to come up with new arguments :heh:
 
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The problem with him has always been interceptions and more importantly interceptions in crucial moments.

Of his 21 career postseason interceptions, 18 have been in opponents territory, 15 have been when the game was within one score, 14 have been within field goal range, 3 have been Pick 6's, and he's led a game winning 4th quarter drive in only one of these games.

Now compare him to his contemporary Tom Brady

Of Brady's 22 interceptions, 16 were in opponents territory, 9 were within field goal territory, 7 were with the game within "one score", and he's led a game winning drive in 4 of these games

Overall
Tom Brady(17-7)
Per game: 23-37, 248 yards, 1.8 TD, 0.9 INT, 62% 87 Rating

Peyton Manning (9-11)
Per game: 24-38, 284 yards, 1.6 TD, 1.1 INT, 63%, 88 Rating

Higher TD percentage+Lower Interception percentage+Near Equal accuracy=Better PS Quarterback

I told yall bout these stats without context.......What were the average rushing yards per team during their respective playoff runs?
 

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I told yall bout these stats without context.......What were the average rushing yards per team during their respective playoff runs?
is there context which makes throwing more picks in crucial times good or something ?
 

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not sure if thats true but I'll count it as 1, keep going.

Randall Cunningham, Archie Manning, Warren Moon, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Carter MacTavish, Mitch Michowski, and TyRelle Winters (everything season except his 3rd one with the Vikings)
 

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Of course there is. Not the throwing of the pick, but why the passing attempt was made in the first place
thats stupid.

it doesnt matter why the passing attempt was made in the first place, throwing a pick is a bad end result no matter how you look at it, unless its on a hail mary or something
 
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thats stupid.

it doesnt matter why the passing attempt was made in the first place, throwing a pick is a bad end result no matter how you look at it, unless its on a hail mary or something


Let's use a lil bit of logic here. You're comparing Brady and Peyton using stats right?

Does it account for similiar circumstances?

For example. if Peyton is across midfield and its 3rd and 6, Peyton is passing.

If Brady is across midfield and its 3rd and 6, Bell may stack the line and opt to give it to Faulk\Dillon\Running Back...Especially between 01 and 06.

You're comparing apples to oranges for the most part because Peyton and Brady played the same position but different roles for their respective teams....

The Colts built everything around Peyton and he was running a no huddle offense since 2000 that emphasized the passing game...

On the other side, the PATS were defense first, control the clock by running the ball, and have your QB efficiently manage the game while making sure your kicking game was great so that you can play the game of field positioning...
2 different philosophies that produce different decisions in critical situations.

Belli took the ball out of Brady's hands a good number of times during his first 4-5 years of starting....

It was all on Peyton as soon as he stepped in the RCA dome after draft day......
 

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Let's use a lil bit of logic here. You're comparing Brady and Peyton using stats right?

Does it account for similiar circumstances?

For example. if Peyton is across midfield and its 3rd and 6, Peyton is passing.

If Brady is across midfield and its 3rd and 6, Bell may stack the line and opt to give it to Faulk\Dillon\Running Back...Especially between 01 and 06.

You're comparing apples to oranges for the most part because Peyton and Brady played the same position but different roles for their respective teams....

The Colts built everything around Peyton and he was running a no huddle offense since 2000 that emphasized the passing game...

On the other side, the PATS were defense first, control the clock by running the ball, and have your QB efficiently manage the game while making sure your kicking game was great so that you can play the game of field positioning...
2 different philosophies that produce different decisions in critical situations.

Belli took the ball out of Brady's hands a good number of times during his first 4-5 years of starting....

It was all on Peyton as soon as he stepped in the RCA dome after draft day......
I dont believe in the 'game managing' qb distinction. all qbs main job is to manage the game and not to make mistakes. that the #1 job

those pick stats were specifically in context of close games - where a pick or a turnover is fukking lethal

a pick is a pick no matter what situation. it's never good in 99% of times when its not a hailmary or a long punt basically.
 
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