“Some people are just destined to make minimum wage.”

Are some people destined to forever make minimum wage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 60 63.8%
  • No

    Votes: 34 36.2%

  • Total voters
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humminbird

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America will throw tons of hurdles at you to try to knock you off route but, as long as you can avoid the major ones (jail, getting killed, having kids early, getting sick, etc.), you can get to the next level if you want it bad enough. I grew up in government housing eating oodle's and noodle's and cut up hot dogs. It was the hood hood. Then I went to college, graduated, and never looked back. I would say about half my friends made it out, the rest fell to the abovementioned hurdles. Even then, for most people, if you've made mistakes, as long as you still breathing, you can turn your life around if you want. I remember reading an article a while back that said you're likely to die in the same class you were born in. I always thought that had to have been directed to white people because black people are born at the bottom already, so if you get a trade/marketable degree and get a good job, you've moved up a class then and there. I've never understood that :yeshrug: The next step after that, which is probably what they were referring to, is figuring out how to free yourself from your job and build real wealth, which is harder. But, when it comes to that, I'm of the mind that as long as you make good decisions, don't get caught up in something that can set you back (serious illness, loss of income, divorce), it's a question of when, not if. If you make good decisions for ten years straight, with no hiccups in your life, you're gonna make something of yourself :yeshrug: But like I was saying, most people aren't trying to become successful. They say they are but, they aren't. They're lazy and don't have the discipline to commit to doing anything. So you can cross them off the list. Then you got people who literally can't (dead, in jail, too old, too sick). Then you got people who are risk-adverse and want security. They're just happy where they are. They just want to work a normal job and go home to their kids everyday. Then you have people who aren't interested in making money, period, like someone who decides to be a teacher, or work for a non-profit or the government. Out of a room of 100 people, you just crossed off about 75 of them. Maybe more. There's not as many people competing with you as you think. As long as an Act of God doesn't take you out of here early, if you want it, you'll figure it out :yeshrug:

Sidenote: I came around real wealth when I went to college. Started meeting kids of bankers, diplomats, corporate lawyers, rich celebrities, etc. Even more so post-graduation in my career. Once I got exposed to that sort of life in person it changed the way I thought. When you hear someone say they've made $2 million this year and that person does not look or act any more intelligent than you, you start trying to figure out what they're doing that you're not doing. For example, I grew up in the projects. My entire life growing up there, I never gave any consideration that somebody somewhere owned them houses. Usually a white man. And they getting a check every month. My uncle (not by blood but, closer than my blood uncles) owns 7 or so properties. Has three different businesses on top of that. Super paid. And that nikka dropped out of high school. Once, he was telling me a business associate of his (white man) owns like 60 apartments in our city. Said he went out to his house once and just went :whew:
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But if that experienced book keeper doesn't know that system, he/she will need to be trained just as the minimum wage guy.


And a company would take more of a chance on training the skilled worker. Again, this only benefits the skilled worker. But who cares about the unskilled worker right?
 

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This is true. Just go to the projects and you’ll see this.

I work with clients daily who are just blessed to have a job and there is no thought process of getting more income.

why would there be, if they are comfortable why does it matter to you:jbhmm:
 

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You have some people who are content with their lives and some who want more out of life. Some people are cool working a dead end job as long as they got money to buy some J's, weed, etc. Some people want more out of life. I make a good living and enjoy what I do but I NEVER look down on people who make less than me or who aren't working in some "prestigious" job. Hell ten years ago I was one of them. Also majority of Americans are one paycheck away from being one of them.

Everyone going out doing an honest days work is good in my book.
 

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And a company would take more of a chance on training the skilled worker. Again, this only benefits the skilled worker. But who cares about the unskilled worker right?

My point is if you need train someone the fukk does it matter if they are skilled or not? They still need to be trained. That previous experience may not even apply to the current function at all aside from title.
 

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My point is if you need train someone the fukk does it matter if they are skilled or not? They still need to be trained. That previous experience may not even apply to the current function at all aside from title.

If you're not interested in waiting money on investments, you'll care
Someone who has 3 years bookeeping experience that needs to be trained is more valuable to a company than someone who has 3 months experience who needs to be trained
 

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Let's cut the bullshyt entirely: OP is working a regular job making 40-50k a year like errbody else and in the event that he isn't, he's still only 1-2 checks away from being in the hole.

After the government shutdown (remember that?), all stunting deposits have been rejected :pacspit:
 

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he's just further demonstrating what a shyt "business man" he'd be

don't waste your time breh

My point is if you need train someone the fukk does it matter if they are skilled or not? They still need to be trained. That previous experience may not even apply to the current function at all aside from title.
 

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It's funny how people in here advocate for the minimum wage to go up but say NOTHING about the col and inflation increasing and far outpacing wages
Like that's just idiotic, it's like nikkas truly don't understand minimum wage has been increasing for decades yet everything has been becoming exponentially more expensive to the point where the dollar is worth less than what it used to be

So even like 17$ an hour really just going to amount to like 14 or 13 because of inflation

Now with this economic crash, things might get different with housing which might offset inflation some.
 

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By raising the minimum wage, companies can't hire unskilled workers because they will be losing money. A company has to invest more money into training up an unskilled worker to become skilled, then add that to giving them a higher wage. No business would take that risk. By keeping it where it's at, it allows companies to hire them at a lower rate to eventually have them trained up

Imagine you opening a business and you hire an unskilled bookeeper/payroll clerk $20/hr. Your business would fail in a month
This is a myth. The white man has used this lie time and time again.

If anything, have these larger companies print out some profit and loss statements, balance sheets etc and we’ll see how much they would actually lose.

Ive employed guys on 1099 and I paid them the industry standard. I would love to pay them more but that’s what the market dictated:yeshrug:in that case it would cut into my bottom line, but anyone who thinks McDonald’s is losing money by raising the minimum wage needs to rethink that:mjlol:
 

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This probably isn’t the best time to discuss this considering the current economic climate but....

Me and my boys were discussing this in our WhatsApp group. Whilst we agree the gap between the rich and poor is growing at an inexplicable rate (and even more so now), there are just people who aren’t going to ever aspire to be more.

And yes, I’m aware that there are structures put in place to keep the rich richer and the poor even poorer BUT, there are those of us who don’t allow the circumstances we’re born in to define us. Some people are just going to be bagging groceries until they die, flipping burgers until their knees give in.

Like I don’t get how people get to their 30s and still work in the same dead end job and make poor decisions. You’ve had years to find other skills, trades or avenues to make money. And yet you get mad at everyone else except yourself for your own poor decisions?

There’s a reason why we have home owners and life time renters.

Once deep learning neural networks automate white collar jobs and smart contracts become the standard.

It won't matter.

This attitude of looking down on others is self serving nonsense. They'll always be people doing better than you.

It's like a deal maker looking down on you for being a corporate yesman instead of setting up your own enterprise/buying and selling companies and raising capital.

And a tech billionaire looking down on him for not having an 10 figure IPO and 8 figure yatchts.

An old money aristocrat looking down on the billionaire for not having Royal blood and etiquette.
 

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The secret to why these rich folks are as rich as they are.
Even though they might have done some shady stuff to get money at first and maybe still do...........
The bulk of the money a lot of rich people make is from the stock market/investments.......
If you learn how to manipulate, I mean, play the stock market, even as a young fry cook at McDonalds, you can come up out of that life......

Now the one thing about people is having kids really young and starting a family too young might affect your ability to do this.....Family is great, but sometimes people start them too young.....
 
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