NormanConnors
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how is Puff getting enough credit to use a beat like Warning in his battle, that's all easy moe bee
. Mad beats on your list are 
Some People Call This Producing, I Call It Finessing
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how is Puff getting enough credit to use a beat like Warning in his battle, that's all easy moe bee. Mad beats on your list are 
Bluffy was probably like, put that beeping sound in the beginning
Breh, the opening post was an exampleAnd you keep harping on the fact he doesn’t have a production credit on that song, when I’ve already pointed out he has a writing credit, which is worse. Considering this is the man who had to outsource the lyrics to a Rest In Peace song to his friend, and is famous for not writing. The whole flow and everything was obviously Pharrell. What did Bluffy do, change a word or two
Aslo, are you a fan of hip hop? Do you not know this shyt has been said before by people in the industry? People he’s worked with? nikka are you signed to bad boy or something?
From Pete Rock on how Bluffy stole Juicy
The question over who actually produced “Juicy” started in a 2004 Wax Poeticsinterview with legendary producer Pete Rock. In addition to saying that Q-Tip took the beat for A Tribe Called Quest’s “"); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); background-repeat: repeat no-repeat;">Jazz” without giving him proper credit, Pete said that Puffy more or less stole the “Juicy” beat from him. “I did the original version, didn’t get credit for it,” he "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); background-repeat: repeat no-repeat;">explained. “He heard that shyt and the next thing you know it comes out. They had me do a remix, but I tell people, and I will fight it to the end, that I did the original version of that.”
Despite Pete’s version of the backstory, the liner notes of Ready to Die list Poke of The Trackmasters and Puffy as the song’s producers instead of Pete Rock. Pete said he wasn’t angry about the slight, but it seemed at the time of the interview he felt burned by several instances of not receiving appropriate credit for his work. “I’m not mad at anybody,” he "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px); background-repeat: repeat no-repeat;">told Wax Poetics. “I just want the correct credit. fukk that. Y’all can’t just be robbing mu’fukkas. If you didn’t do the work, I’ma expose you.”
From a complex article with the Trackmasters:
In part one of our epic conversation, the duo talked about getting in the game, the last days of Cold Chillin’ Records, and the rise of Bad Boy Records. They had plenty of stories to share, including how Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs (as he was known back in those days) was the master of taking credit and a hilarious story about how Steve Stoutebecame their manager.
From that same article
Poke: “Obviously. I don’t know when the last time I heard the original. Back then, anything that came out under Bad Boy was Puffy’s record. So he does take credit. Sometimes not on purpose, but just because it came out on Bad Boy.”
Puff goes in, he puts the proper team together, a hit record comes out, and he takes the [credit]. He’s the pool shark, he’s the best at getting credit. He knows how to seize the opportunity to make sure the credit favors him. - Poke
you think Puff cares what Tone and Poke or Pete Rock say about juicy. Those dudes fighting each other about a juicy fruit sample that puffy had an idea for and made successful before them. What they say holds no weight and they looked at as bitter and jealous.
When puff plays his records that he produced in a battle you can’t deny it. Don’t be mad after the fact it’s been 25 years now.
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To be honest, if Puffs annoying and obnoxious motivation inspired the beat
it is what it is 
Boonapalist
Superstar
Puff’s sharking ass isn’t even listed as a producer on Warning or some of those songs. And that nikka’s got the audacity to list bonus rounds
Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
I remember this one beat that the bad boy team was making for Biggie's album and Diddy just rolled dice and added that to the beat. It was some footage that was part of this Biggie documentary that used to air on BET. Not sure if anyone will remember what I'm talking about but I remember that lol.
Music Fiend
Superstar
They dont know what a real producer is.
Beatmaker and Producer arent the same thing although in our culture they are used interchangeably. Usually you're both, sometimes you are just the executive producer and bring value by taking a record, pulling it apart and making some changes and making the record a hit
Animal House
Superstar
That beat was wack
Hip hop should have room to evolve...
Its dope that someone can bring in a drummer etc and approach a hip hop album from a different perspective...
Here is Ddot posting this video of dr Dre today. This will school a lot of people on this board that don’t know what a producer is and how Puff crafted hit records. Big difference between a beat maker and producer as Dre says...y’all gonna learn today!
nikka wasn’t producing nothing but freak offs
M4T
Pro
Kanye can actually make beats by himself with no help. Dre early stuff is sample based then he started using session musicians but that's why his beats sound so good from the real instruments. Diddy I think just finds samples and tells producers to make beats out of it.
M4T
Pro
Dudes in here talking about a handful of “visionary” producers who can make hits when 99% of hits from the last 20+ years have been someone sending a beat to someone who sent their verse to someone else over email
And most of the people who have crossed into that realm are people who started a name from producing beats i.e Kanye, Neptunes, Dre, Pierre Bourne, metro boomin etc...
these visionary nikkas are just scammers like French Montana