Someone explain to me Jayz dissing Drake for not signing to Tidal?

[Food Mane]

Are you saying Jay is a bad business man? You dont think good businessmen all over the world get mad when people tell them "No" and they miss out on a great opportunity. Its business, you get pissed off then move on to the next venture.

Jay is obviously a good businessman. Just saying that you should never blame the client. Blame yourself for the client not going with you and get better so the next client does go with you.

 

[SunZoo]

Drake was talking all kinds of slick shyt on top of reneging on the Tidal deal, aka he didn't keep his word...he had a right to do what he felt was best but that was also him co-signing and supporting Iovine and the rest of the old guard. If Drake is going to go back on his word to help support the people actively trying to stop me from doing something I believe in, all while poppin shyt, he's fair game.

 

[trillanova]

Drake was talking all kinds of slick shyt on top of reneging on the Tidal deal...he had a right to do what he felt was best but that was also him co-signing and supporting Iovine and the rest of the old guard. If Drake is going to take up the cause of the people actively trying to stop me from doing something I believe in, all while poppin shyt, he's fair game.

Exactly.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Would young Hov sign with Tidal over Apple offering 20mil? Of course not.

Hov is right to lampoon Drake's business situation but the Tidal stuff is sour grapes shyt. He loves pretending like he owns shyt and casting himself as some benevolent entity when at the end of the day he's still the dude trying to win by any means and praising capitalism/money. Drake should be in a better position than he is but that has nothing to do with Apple and everything to do with his label situation.

End of the day Apple is going to win this war unless Amazon/Bezos steps in. What if he buys Spotify for instance. Until then, roll with the winners...

 

[Ayo]

It’s about ownership you dummies.

Drake could have been part owner of something. A boss.

Instead he took the bag and became a worker for Apple.

 

[New Username]

Drake wanted a small slice from a big pie instead a big slice from a small pie

A slice from Apple's pie seems more appealing

 

[SunZoo]

It’s about ownership you dummies.

Drake could have been part owner of something. A boss.

Instead he took the bag and became a worker for Apple.

And then called himself the "new Jay"...after dissing him I mind you.



But of course, let's pretend Aubrey Graham cracker is being bullied here.

 

[CrimsonTider]

#1 Tidal was taking a stand to pay the artist more. Drake aligning with Apple while people who helped him become relevant i.e. Alicia Keys, Jay-Z, Kanye, Rihanna, Beyoncé, and others were joining forces. It just proved that he is not a loyal person. A lot of powerful people decided to take a chance on Tidal and Drake really would've been the piece they needed to take it to the level they needed to be at to be a threat. I would be pissed too. I know you're a Drake stan, but just go back and watch that old Tidal video where all the celebs did the press conference. How many of them helped Drake position himself to be the artist that he is?

He always wants to be "down" and "black" when it's convenient and it's time to sell records, but when it comes to actually building and maintaining with his people he makes selfish decisions. You can try to counter with the "oh, but he writes for other people" but that is not the same as taking a stand and building your own platform. I think Jay took Drake under his wing and probably gave him a lot of game, more than we probably see. So it was like Drake spat in his face when he basically chose to side with Tim Cook and Jimmy Iovine who are not artists, but eat off the artists and really don't put in work.

It's one thing to stan someone and love their music but the boy has character flaws that keep getting exposed. Not saying Jay is perfect, but if one black man is coming to another and saying "hey, let's team up and win....we're the ones creating...we're the ones moving the culture...we can control our own shyt" and then you give your word that you'll join him....then side with the enemy...that's real snake behavior. You did it for 20Ms too and you had a mentor who could easily show you how to make a billy in his time. But nope. You took the short money and now nikkas know you got ghostwriters, Push got at you and you laid down and died and knocked up a porn star and hid your son.

Jayz isn’t the only one with business acumen. What is Tidal doing for all those other artist that were stage?

I love how people act like TIDAL was the catalyst for this Jay/Drake situation while ignoring the fact that Drake dissed Jay-Z out of the clear blue sky in that Rolling Stone interview. Prior to that it was mostly seen as friendly competition.

Fred.

I’m talking about what Jay said on Boss. That was directed at Drake for not signing with Tidal

Drake supposedly gave his word that he was gonna become one of the minority’s owners like the other artists, but Apple offered him that deal at the last minute, and basically went back on his word, and said fukk what was already agreed upon.

That coupled with dissing Jay in a magazine, and on a couple songs would be my guess as to why Hov had to put him in his place.

Drake made the smart business decision. Y’all saying he didn’t keep his word but whose to say he wasn’t negotiating with every platform

 

[CrimsonTider]

It’s about ownership you dummies.

Drake could have been part owner of something. A boss.

Instead he took the bag and became a worker for Apple.

Ownership of what?

 

[THE MACHINE]

It’s about ownership you dummies.

Drake could have been part owner of something. A boss.

Instead he took the bag and became a worker for Apple.

Isnt that what Jay just did with Puma though?

 

[Yecht]

Jay-Z should be focusing his energy on more important things. Bleek is still 1 hit away

 

[CrimsonTider]

Are you saying Jay is a bad business man? You dont think good businessmen all over the world get mad when people tell them "No" and they miss out on a great opportunity. Its business, you get pissed off then move on to the next venture.

No, what he is saying by publicly bickering with someone because it didn’t work out for you potentially hurts negotiations you have down the line because people watch how you react to certain situations

 

[Ayo]

Isnt that what Jay just did with Puma though?

whataboutism

Was his alternative to own a piece of another sneaker company? No. It’s not comparable.

 

[Surreal]

What happened with Ri Ri on Tidal?

 

[Ayo]

Ownership of what?

TIDAL

Why are we all playing like we didn’t know this already? Jay-Z needed big ass minority owner’s names attached to the TIDAL deal. Drake was supposed to be on that stage but backed out last second.

Drake literally decided to be a worker and not a boss. That’s where the subs and this beef comes from.

We know this.

Argue the merits. Argue which was the better deal. But don’t pretend you don’t get what’s going on.