Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

Must read study, copy and pasting wont do the graphics justice.

Black boys raised in America, even in the wealthiest families and living in some of the most well-to-do neighborhoods, still earn less in adulthood than white boys with similar backgrounds, according to a sweeping new study that traced the lives of millions of children.

White boys who grow up rich are likely to remain that way. Black boys raised at the top, however, are more likely to become poor than to stay wealthy in their own adult households.

Most white boys raised in wealthy families will stay rich or upper middle class as adults, but black boys raised in similarly rich households will not.

Even when children grow up next to each other with parents who earn similar incomes, black boys fare worse than white boys in 99 percent of America. And the gaps only worsen in the kind of neighborhoods that promise low poverty and good schools.

According to the study, led by researchers at Stanford, Harvard and the Census Bureau, income inequality between blacks and whites is driven entirely by what is happening among these boys and the men they become. Black and white girls from families with comparable earnings attain similar individual incomes as adults.

“You would have thought at some point you escape the poverty trap,” said Nathaniel Hendren, a Harvard economist and an author of the study.

Black boys — even rich black boys — can seemingly never assume that.

The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.

The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.

A more likely possibility, the authors suggest, is that test scores don’t accurately measure the abilities of black children in the first place.

If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.

“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”

The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.

“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”

The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.

“That is a pathbreaking finding,” said William Julius Wilson, a Harvard sociologist whose books have chronicled the economic struggles of black men. “They’re not talking about the direct effects of a boy’s own parents’ marital status. They’re talking about the presence of fathers in a given census tract.”

Other fathers in the community can provide boys with role models and mentors, researchers say, and their presence may indicate other neighborhood factors that benefit families, like lower incarceration rates and better job opportunities.

The research makes clear that there is something unique about the obstacles black males face. The gap between Hispanics and whites is narrower, and their incomes will converge within a couple of generations if mobility stays the same. Asian-Americans earn more than whites raised at the same income level, or about the same when first-generation immigrants are excluded. Only Native Americans have an income gap comparable to African-Americans. But the disparities are widest for black boys.

Sons of Rich Black Families Fare No Better Than Sons of Working-Class Whites

Yall keep c00ning

 

[Zak Bible]

Cacs' love this c00n talking point.

Yes it’s called the “muh dikk” meme

But it’s true, that’s a huge part of their inferiority complex, life is rough but shyt at least my dikks not small

 

[BigMan]

I have an issue with black male hosts speaking of black people issues and only featuring nonblack or mixed women speakers. The female cohost is biracial girl apparently raised by a ww giving her two cent on the a dynamic that primarily affects BW of 2 black parent households? A lot of these black radio shows love discussing black issues but not including fully bw in the conversation. Weird.

this is what people get for "Dragging" latinos and birracial people who don't claim black
i find it funny that now people, especially women, are getting mad that lite brites, Dominicans, mixed women etc. are talking about "black" issues but they were the ones yelling at these people to say they were black.

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

I have an issue with black male hosts speaking of black people issues and only featuring nonblack or mixed women speakers. The female cohost is biracial girl apparently raised by a ww giving her two cent on the a dynamic that primarily affects BW of 2 black parent households? A lot of these black radio shows love discussing black issues but not including fully bw in the conversation. Weird.

You yourself are a non AA with a white boyfriend.

How can you find offense to a situation you are contributing to as well?



The pro-black diatribes are just masking the hostility you feel toward white women

The cognitive dissonance of these people have is crazy.

PS

#AAGang how do you feel about African bed wenches eating off the feminist hustle?

 

[AAKing23]

Okay so you sort of proved our point.

If black women outnumber men naturally some will be left out. And I went to a pwi and run with the same peer circle such as yourself and the percentage of bm and bw are so low that all nikkas get exposed to for the most part are cacs. Most bw at these schools ain’t checking for the average bookworm nikka, they want the elite 1% that plays football or basketball

Non bw want the few nikkas that actually attend the school so they usually throw it at them and make it easy.


My cousin goes to northwestern and he never really fukked with ww until he got there, not enough bw.

University of Chicago is the same way

Exactly

Women are hypergamous by nature so I would say even though black men are outnumbered on these campuses it doesn't really mean much. These girls are all looking up at the elite 1% like you said and not checking for the average nikka on campus. Hell these chicks will even go off campus and deal with dudes outside of school that got it like that before messing with the average dude on campus. Meanwhile what is the average dude to do? Just wait to find a black woman or move on. Chances are he's probably just gonna fukk with chicks that fukk with him , especially when he'll have some girls from other races choosing heavy if he is a solid dude.

 

[Ya?]

this is what people get for "Dragging" latinos and birracial people who don't claim black
i find it funny that now people, especially women, are getting mad that lite brites, Dominicans, mixed women etc. are talking about "black" issues but they were the ones yelling at these people to say they were black.

@Dip BW have always been vocal of their underrepresentation in favour of biracial and mestizo Hispanics for some time. The issue that some BW have is that the conversation cannot be had without dudes interjecting bitterness or jealousy when this blatant thing is called out. Black radio stations that used to have bw female voices have been phased out and only mixed women need apply. Why would bw advocate for their own erasure. The writings on the wall and now BW are more vocal. I am sure once this starts happening Black men than they will start caring.

I really don't think bw would have anticipated in the 90s that this would be the result.

This is why I enjoy thoughtcrimez channel it is BM and BW radio style channel that speaks on black issues and entertainment. Everyone even these so called militant channels don't want bw unless they are mixed or nonblack. It is insulting to have bm speaking on BW with nonblack mixed bw instead of bw themselves.

You see this with the breakfast club, the other radio station with the mixed guy as host, double toasted, a lot of black male lead podcast/radio style channels.

 

[BigMan]

@Dip BW have always been vocal of their underrepresentation in favour of biracial and mestizo Hispanics for some time. The issue that some BW have is that the conversation cannot be had without dudes interjecting bitterness or jealousy when this blatant thing is called out. Black radio stations that used to have bw female voices have been phased out and only mixed women need apply. Why would bw advocate for their own erasure. The writings on the wall and now BW are more vocal. I am sure once this starts happening Black men than they will start caring.

I really don't think bw would have anticipated in the 90s that this would be the result.

This is why I enjoy thoughtcrimez channel it is BM and BW radio style channel that speaks on black issues and entertainment. Everyone even these so called militant channels don't want bw unless they are mixed or nonblack. It is insulting to have bm speaking on BW with nonblack mixed bw instead of bw themselves.

You see this with the breakfast club, the other radio station with the mixed guy as host, double toasted, a lot of black male lead podcast/radio style channels.

Gotta deal with the consequences ma

 

[Ya?]

Gotta deal with the consequences ma

You honestly think it is bw who ushered this? I disagree. Hip hop has a lot of to do with this and that is run by men.

 

[BigMan]

You honestly think it is bw who ushered this? I disagree. Hip hop has a lot of to do with this and that is run by men.

its both genders but Yes
black people spent decades yelling at biracials and latin people that they're really black and have to identify as black but now are having a problem with these folks identifying as black
men hardly complain about light skin/biracial men, its mostly women who are now complaining about it

 

[Ya?]

its both genders but Yes
black people spent decades yelling at biracials and latin people that they're really black and have to identify as black but now are having a problem with these folks identifying as black
men hardly complain about light skin/biracial men, its mostly women who are now complaining about it

BM aren't complaining because they appear right alongside with them.

But when too many biracial men are shown without any dude darker than a paperbag that is when colorism is only a female thing gets thrown out the window.

It will be interesting to see when mixed men will dominate sports and a lot of these entertainment spots that ds men have been dominating how that narrative will change.

I agree with the rest of what you said but for right now it is bw who have been shortchanged the most. Its funny how when you think mixed people mixed women dominate the conversation as if mixed men don't exist.

 

[BigMan]

BM aren't complaining because they appear right alongside with them.

But when too many biracial men are shown without any dude darker than a paperbag that is when colorism is only a female thing gets thrown out the window.

It will be interesting to see when mixed men will dominate sports and a lot of these entertainment spots that ds men have been dominating how that narrative will change.

when does this happen ?
and at the red
there's a whole bunch of mixed and lite brite nikkas in the NBA and no one complains

the best in the league are still dark skin men.

 

[Ya?]

when does this happen ?
and at the red
there's a whole bunch of mixed and lite brite nikkas in the NBA and no one complains

the best in the league are still dark skin men.

Exactly and there is also still a ds male presence. While there are spaces where you will have only mixed women and no bw alongside bm. To me it is done on purpose.

The crop of lightskin men is very recent and mostly because there is high rate of athletes who have ir relationships and it is their kids taking on the leap. The crop of ds black male athletes come mainly from single black mothers.you see the same dynamic in the UK with football.

But soon these sports willl only be accessible by kidss who have well connected parents in the sport. It seems like that is the trend now former athletes kids.

 

[BigMan]

Exactly and there is also still a very ds male presence. While there are spaces where you will have only mixed women and no bw alongside bm. To me it is done on purpose.

Whether its done on purpose isn't my argument. my thing is black people huss and fuss over light skinnt and mixed people identifying as black and now that they call themselves black, people have a problem with them occupying black spaces.

 

[Ya?]

Whether its done on purpose isn't my argument. my thing is black people huss and fuss over light skinnt and mixed people identifying as black and now that they call themselves black, people have a problem with them occupying black spaces.

True but those that do this it is for self serving purposes. I can't argue here, but the motivation isn't the same for either women or men. Just the outcome.

BW can't make the distinction without being called jealous and someone mentioning that they have aunty or cousin that looks like that and isn't 'mixed'.

Mixed men know their place within the black male group. The dynamic is different for women.

@Dip edited post

 

[BigMan]

True but those that do this it is for self serving purposes. I can't argue here, but the motivation isn't the same for either women or men. Just the outcome.

BW can't make the distinction without being called jealous and someone mentioning that they have aunty or cousin that looks like that and isn't 'mixed'.

Mixed men know their place within the black male group. The dynamic is different for women.

@Dip edited post

i think this has alot to do with American culture/history
You're right, its almost impossible to make those distinctions without someone bringing up some angela rye looking jawn.