Sony has yet to show off working ps4 and key features.

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Those stage demos were real hands on demonstrations. Do you mean remote-play with a retail PS4? If that's what you mean, we aren't gonna see that for awhile because there are no finished games to run on a retail ps4, right now.

Also, the Xbox One Dev-kit has the exact same case as the retail version (with minor differences).
There's actually some evidence that the demos were not real demos. Most stage demos are "staged" and by "hands on" I ment the press/public getting to try the features out.

And there are multiple iterations of the Xbox dev kit. I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread though.
 

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Were there working ps3 around this time before its release? I honestly don't remeber

There are working retail Xbox ones available right now, and it passed FCC certification before the ps4

We have seen stage demos of ps4 features, but no real hands on demonstrations. Don't you think some of this stuff should have been demoed by now?

So NOW they just announce they had FCC Certification? Usually the net finds the evidence at first.

And that herb, Larry Hyrb aka Major Nelson is a complete tool.
 

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So NOW they just announce they had FCC Certification? Usually the net finds the evidence at first.

And that herb, Larry Hyrb aka Major Nelson is a complete tool.

Its not news. Someone found out about ps4 and wrote a story about it. But it's not something that companies actually report on.
 

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Its not news. Someone found out about ps4 and wrote a story about it. But it's not something that companies actually report on.

I know companies don't report on it, the net ninjaz usually find the FCC cert. And MS themselves said they upped the clock speed of the gpu a month ago, which would require a "recertification".
 

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I know companies don't report on it, the net ninjaz usually find the FCC cert. And MS themselves said they upped the clock speed of the gpu a month ago, which would require a "recertification".

No it wouldn't. The certifications deal with "maximum theoretical" specs which is why the numbers reported for ps4 were maximum theoretical speeds, not the speeds Sony is actually using.
 
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For the life of me I can't understand you dudes willingness to believe no name strangers accross the Internet, but treat official statements with ultimate scrutiny.

If Microsoft is lying about everything then so is Sony. You can't have it both ways.

Does the stanary really make y'all believe this stuff, or are you just trolling? Serious question.
 
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The only features they needed to show before release was games and policies.

Both sufficient enough to trump xbox one preorders.

Have a good day sir :salute:
 

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I'm not. Numbers are on my side and its a clear indicator that they showed enough to get millions to invest $400 for their system.
Yes you are. This thread isn't about preorders or winning the "console war"

It's about the ps4. Instead of talking about the ps4 you ran in to talk about the Xbox1. And addressed nothing in the op.

:scusthov: at you stans.
 
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When filing you are allowed to ask for confidentiality. Apparently both Sony and M$ did but Sony still leaked. If you look at other devices we don't find out about the approval until after the confidentiality period.

And I honestly don't know what I'm looking at, but these are supposedly the filings
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=333860&fcc_id=C3K1537

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=396261&fcc_id=C3K1525

And common sense will tell you M$ has no reason to lie about this. The truth will come out eventually. If they had not filed yet it would make more sense to just keep quiet.
 

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Microsoft had retail Xbox 1's at Gamescom

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