Sony has yet to show off working ps4 and key features.

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That's not shyty support from Nintendo. That's shytty support from everyone else. They didn't get that support due to questionable decisions.

But they still have found much success. And fans purchased the wii u due to that success. Problem is that prior success has not transferred into current success. Which is the point I was making. You shouldn't make purchase decisions based on what a company did last time.
QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS THAT THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR AND ARE PAYING THE PRICE NOW. That ultimately falls on THEM for not listening to what developers/publishers WANT.

The Wii turned out to be a DISASTER long term just like I predicted. They are probably scrambling all over the place to try and gain more of their core audience. The Wii was a slap in the face to people who supported them from 1985-2006
 

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If they don't show it before the release date. Would you still purchase?
No, I'd cancel my pre-order and buy one later. But do you honestly think they will not show anything before the release date? Or that they wouldn't announce a delay well beforehand if there was an issue? This is where you're being silly.

I don't NEED a console on November 15th. If it's not ready, it's not ready. If there are no dealbreaking issues or changes in what's promised then I still don't see a problem.
 

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No, I'd cancel my pre-order and buy one later. But do you honestly think they will not show anything before the release date? Or that they wouldn't announce a delay well beforehand if there was an issue? This is where you're being silly.

I don't NEED a console on November 15th. If it's not ready, it's not ready. If there are no dealbreaking issues or changes in what's promised then I still don't see a problem.

I never said they wouldn't show it off before launch. I asked you what a reasonable timeframe is and you can't answer.

You dudes get so buthurt over the consoles that you are unable to have a reasonable conversation. I never even said there was a problem. I asked at what point does it become a problem. If you are so annoyed by the thread then you can just leave. If you want to engage in conversation fine, but quit acting like your being forced to be here. If you want to close your eyes/ears and hand over your money to Sony then go right ahead, nobodies stopping you.
 

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I never said they wouldn't show it off before launch. I asked you what a reasonable timeframe is and you can't answer.

You dudes get so buthurt over the consoles that you are unable to have a reasonable conversation. I never even said there was a problem. I asked at what point does it become a problem. If you are so annoyed by the thread then you can just leave. If you want to engage in conversation fine, but quit acting like your being forced to be here. If you want to close your eyes/ears and hand over your money to Sony then go right ahead, nobodies stopping you.
I never claimed I was being forced to be here. I told you a couple posts ago that I was here for the fukkery. Nobody's forcing you to respond to me either, breh.

Edit: Oh, I'll give you an answer. 2 weeks to a month before launch date.

And for the record, your initial post did imply that there was a problem Otherwise, why would you be "concerned?" as you claimed people should be at the lack of info thus far? People aren't usually "concerned" if they feel everything's ok.
 

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Wow, this threads topic is nice. Then 3cepts try to turn it into Nintendo, or PS1/2/3 but not 4 :laff:
Lets just see the actual level of butthurt in this thread...
The only features they needed to show before release was games and policies.

Both sufficient enough to trump xbox one preorders.

Have a good day sir :salute:
This thread was created because we don't know the policies. And there isn't that many games either
What you said had NOTHING to do with sony jumping ahead for a week in preorders. DRM was the cause for that.
Since then, xbox been the winner in terms of what this threads topic is about. Let a pre-order article confuse you tho..
This is really not something worthy of concern. Different companies show different things on their schedule, not ours. We don't know their schedule. We can't determine if what we're seeing is late or if they're on or off schedule. Until there's an announcement stating the system is delayed or there is a major issue that me and the millions of other preordering customers should be aware of, I'm not worried.

All the rest is silly speculation and fruitless talking points.
No device/item period gets hype for no reason. iPhone6 is coming out soon. iPhone5 was just a smaller screen iPhone4s right? Something like that. Because of this, nobody gives a shyt about iPhone6 til all the new features are well known. Then people will decide if they want that, or if they would rather move to andriod or windows.
PS4 is currently an iPhone6. But videogame consoles are not cellphones, you can't do business this way. Not if you want to gain customers who are not FANBOYS. This business practice does not convert. So dance all you want, the xbox installed userbase which dwarfs PSN isn't switching sides. Deal with it :win:
Meach just doesn't get it. The only features they have to show have been shown.

it turns on and specs revealed
it plays games
controller works
policies and price

price is right or the NFL is not going to sell your console.

this is business 101 level type of shyt.
You are not really a "man" tho. Sports doesn't interest you.You game on PC for Christ sake :heh:
Look, NFL doesn't interest you. Neither does ESPN. Big Business? He's well loved, but not anymore because nobody cares bout TV anymore. Xbox has it so its crap!!!
Just give me Knack, a DS4 controller that nobody is praising, and I'll keep talking about these policies I still don't understand
Used games is still up to the developer ladies and gentleman. Blocks on used games is still gonna happen THIS GEN
One company is working on its STEAM like integration while the other will sloppy copy :hula:
justified given the shytty hardware issues on the xbox 360 when it launched
As opposed to the PS1 or the class action lawsuit losing PS2?
YLOD PS3 wasn't an issue either (they happen more often than RROD for 3yrs now)

Or the fact that the XB1 is designed to last 10yrs while running :wow:
I only had one cable box go bad on me ever!!!
http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-one-is-apparently-designed-to-stay-on-for-ten-995116212

Now where is the PS4 lasting 10yrs, or 10days? Wasn't the PS3 supposed to last 10yrs? PS4 isn't even supposed to be here
 

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Wow, this threads topic is nice. Then 3cepts try to turn it into Nintendo, or PS1/2/3 but not 4 :laff:
Lets just see the actual level of butthurt in this thread...

This thread was created because we don't know the policies. And there isn't that many games either
What you said had NOTHING to do with sony jumping ahead for a week in preorders. DRM was the cause for that.
Since then, xbox been the winner in terms of what this threads topic is about. Let a pre-order article confuse you tho..

No device/item period gets hype for no reason. iPhone6 is coming out soon. iPhone5 was just a smaller screen iPhone4s right? Something like that. Because of this, nobody gives a shyt about iPhone6 til all the new features are well known. Then people will decide if they want that, or if they would rather move to andriod or windows.
PS4 is currently an iPhone6. But videogame consoles are not cellphones, you can't do business this way. Not if you want to gain customers who are not FANBOYS. This business practice does not convert. So dance all you want, the xbox installed userbase which dwarfs PSN isn't switching sides. Deal with it :win:

You are not really a "man" tho. Sports doesn't interest you.You game on PC for Christ sake :heh:
Look, NFL doesn't interest you. Neither does ESPN. Big Business? He's well loved, but not anymore because nobody cares bout TV anymore. Xbox has it so its crap!!!
Just give me Knack, a DS4 controller that nobody is praising, and I'll keep talking about these policies I still don't understand
Used games is still up to the developer ladies and gentleman. Blocks on used games is still gonna happen THIS GEN
One company is working on its STEAM like integration while the other will sloppy copy :hula:

As opposed to the PS1 or the class action lawsuit losing PS2?
YLOD PS3 wasn't an issue either (they happen more often than RROD for 3yrs now)

Or the fact that the XB1 is designed to last 10yrs while running :wow:
I only had one cable box go bad on me ever!!!
http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-one-is-apparently-designed-to-stay-on-for-ten-995116212

Now where is the PS4 lasting 10yrs, or 10days? Wasn't the PS3 supposed to last 10yrs? PS4 isn't even supposed to be here
I watch sports all the time and none of Sony's hardware issues were the absolute disaster that the RROD was.
 

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With less than 3 months to release, isn't it a bit concerning that we have not seen a working ps4 unit yet, nor have we seen key features like remote play, game streaming/sharing,pseye functionality.

Sounds like sony's got a lot of work to do in a very short time.

Thoughts? :mjpls:
Why did they announce their release date before MS if they're not going to be ready Nov. 15th?
 

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I watch sports all the time and none of Sony's hardware issues were the absolute disaster that the RROD was.
What sports do you watch "all the time"
Why did they announce their release date before MS if they're not going to be ready Nov. 15th?
So your asking why did sony say something?

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/gen...the-president-of-scea-just-lied-to-th-502192/

I can give you 20 links and/or videos of sony blatantly lying about almost every topic you can come up with.
Demonic console, I'm not 100% joking. They have a demonic aura about them, and there "fanboys" act out in demonic ways when discussing them. Could be a coincidence :hula: or is it?
 

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What sports do you watch "all the time"
Basketball, Football, Baseball. It's pretty much all I watch if I am not working or gaming.

Assumptions much? I am not sure about you, but I am buying my xbox one to play games on it. Are you buying yours to watch the price is right?
 

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Basketball, Football, Baseball. It's pretty much all I watch if I am not working or gaming.

Assumptions much? I am not sure about you, but I am buying my xbox one to play games on it. Are you buying yours to watch the price is right?
Come on down, breh.
 

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And for the record, your initial post did imply that there was a problem Otherwise, why would you be "concerned?" as you claimed people should be at the lack of info thus far? People aren't usually "concerned" if they feel everything's ok.

No that's how y'all took it because you just want to defend Sony. The OP was a question designed to spark conversation. I didn't make any claims one way or another. I asked for opinions.
 

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Basketball, Football, Baseball. It's pretty much all I watch if I am not working or gaming.

Assumptions much? I am not sure about you, but I am buying my xbox one to play games on it. Are you buying yours to watch the price is right?
Your not even buying one, you been doing nothing but shytting on it since last year.
Now because you want to sound less biased your buying it :stopitslime:
You don't even like sports bruh. You close to 10,000 post but I ain't NEVA seen you in the coliseum here or on sohh

PS4: WHERE YOU GOTTA LIE TO KICK IT!!!
 

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have they shown how their Game DVR feature is gonna work? Cuz Upload Studio looks fukkin incredible
 
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