Sorry, got NO sympathy for any of you unemployed n1ggas with "art" degrees

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Naw but for real. Law is not growing at a pace that can support all the people going into it. Every STEM field is underemployed and positioned to grow damn near indefinitely, given our long term problems (aging population, obesity crisis, energy crisis, environmental remediation + crisis, growing global population + food supply etc.). Law will always be relevant, but its an add on whereas each branch of STEM is a driver. Patent law, malpractice law, etc... theres no law engineering or law medicine.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

You can go into a lot of STEM fields w/o necessarily getting a degree.

So what's your point then? You just don't want people to study art?

 

[Data-Hawk]

how are the schools not at fault for giving students the opportunity to take these courses?

Because school is for education first.....

 

[Data-Hawk]

Their ignorance isnt your problem

Math majors make bank.

For Physics majors its really hard to get anything in their field.... You usually have to have a PH.D and even then

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

For Physics majors its really hard to get anything in their field.... You usually have to have a PH.D and even then

Almost sounds like one of them basket weaving degrees: jawalrus:

 

[Data-Hawk]

Almost sounds like one of them basket weaving degrees: jawalrus:

lol...Well on the bright side. If you have a physics degree you should have no problem finding a job in other fields....

 

[Wild self]

Naw but for real. Law is not growing at a pace that can support all the people going into it. Every STEM field is underemployed and positioned to grow damn near indefinitely, given our long term problems (aging population, obesity crisis, energy crisis, environmental remediation + crisis, growing global population + food supply etc.). Law will always be relevant, but its an add on whereas each branch of STEM is a driver. Patent law, malpractice law, etc... theres no law engineering or law medicine.

Obesity crisis? You saying that millions of fat people suddenly gonna die and leave job positions open?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

So what's your point then? You just don't want people to study art?

I don't want people going into debt + making bad decisions in a rush that will affect the rest of their lives. Whether thats picking a soft OR hard degree out of pressure/haste rather than it being what one wants to do with the rest of their lives.

I also want the US to become competitive again, which means a coordinated focus + push in the STEM fields. Even with college education on the rise, the # of STEM graduates in the US has been declining for over 20 yrs. We are not going to remain #1 by importing all our engineers and doctors, especially now that immigrants home countries are becoming more and more realistic places to live + retire

For Physics majors its really hard to get anything in their field.... You usually have to have a PH.D and even then

Physics != math. You can't apply physics to the types of algorithms that power software and finance.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Obesity crisis? You saying that millions of fat people suddenly gonna die and leave job positions open?

Lol nah. I am saying these people are gonna get sick way more frequently than people of healthy weight, which will put healthcare in higher demand.

 

[Data-Hawk]

You can't apply physics to the types of algorithms that power software and finance.

Sure you can.. Most programmers dont need to use physics in their day to day job. But Game programmers use it all the time. Just last week I wrote a Collision Detection Class

But not just game programmers...Any program that tries to model the real world...

 

[69 others]

nothing wrong with an art degree if you're good at it and really want to do it. getting a foot in might be a little be harder cause you have to build up a portfolio but there is always room for writers, artist, and other creative types.

 

[sfgiants]

who else gona take my order at panera bread?

 

[Data-Hawk]

I see it like this.......People who have a love for the arts and can't imagine themself doing anything else will succeed( esp in the internet age, theres so many ways to promote yourself )......

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Sure you can.. Most programmers dont need to use physics in their day to day job. But Game programmers use it all the time. Just last week I wrote a Collision Detection Class

But not just game programmers...Any program that tries to model the real world...

True, true, but game programming jobs aren't exactly in abundance. You need to be sharp in a lot of fields to really reach the top in that realm.

You see this????

nothing wrong with an art degree if you're good at it and really want to do it. getting a foot in might be a little be harder cause you have to build up a portfolio but there is always room for writers, artist, and other creative types.

I see it like this.......People who have a love for the arts and can't imagine themself doing anything else will succeed( esp in the internet age, theres so many ways to promote yourself )......

Exactly

 

[Suicide King]

Exactly. People love their humanity and their personal interests. Many of these STEM majors may as well be robots cause they have very little human traces left in them. Most of the East Indians and Chinese who work in those subjects look like they traumatized. Few love computers and IT subjects, but no one should be forced to take it solely for the money or career choices. Cause they gonna be working for something they don't like for 40-70 a week till they die.

We need to find a perfect balance to it. Humans are not supposed to be rigid beings and sacrifice their humanity for a little bit more money.

I think you are a little off base. That is the natural state for most Indians and Orientals, their culture and society breed them that way. Arrange marriages and all that is a culture that doesn't have no feelings, and doesn't covet any of those sentiments.

As far as the American counterpart, we love STEM, especially Engineering, because the possibilities are endless. People might treat it as an science, but there is an art to solving a problem or designing or innovating. NASA or IBM or Ford or Google might hire 100 Chinese engineers to do routine stuff, but you better believe the chief engineer and project managers at Google or NASA or IBM or Ford or Google are a lot more dynamic.

Engineering is avoided by most because of math, but engineering is more about execution than critical thinking, only exception being programming. Its not that hard to do 40 - 50 hours a week. You might make it to the top of the field being smart AND vanilla, but you'll never starve.

I don't think there is anything wrong about an art degree, but the people who suffer the most are the one's with no plan. The career path is more unpredictable if you don't learn something technical or with computers. People who study music, dancing, drawing, acting or painting better know they gonna have to pay their dues versus more concrete & tangible majors.