Sorry, got NO sympathy for any of you unemployed n1ggas with "art" degrees

[Sandy_Cheeks]

What would you all recommend for art majors. Go back to school for something else or just go broke die an starve

I would not recommend they major in art unless they have a solid plan that will get them where they want to be with that degree.

It's all about planning despite what one majors in.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I doubt American companies are going turn away Asians for a glut of unmotivated, greedy, subpar American engineers.

Unmotivated, greedy, subpar American engineers who create all the innovations the Asians copy? Lemme find out

 

[Sierra Mist]

There's just no future in that shyt.

 

[yoyoyo1]

Let the Asians be the unhappy repressed ones

We're all trying to find ourselves out here

I ain't done shyt for school and about to graduate with a bullshyt degree cause I'm lazy, I know things will work out though

 

[Ill-Mind]

FedEx Office (formerly Kinko’s)
Graduates hired: 48 Job titles: Black & White Printer Operator

Top Employers - The Art Institutes

That "school" outta be ashamed of themselves, a bunch of retail stores on that list, I'm glad I got out of there before it was too late.

 

[Chris.B]

There also studying and copying our technology.

I will rather copy and steal technology than steal basket weaving and pot painting!

 

[Chris.B]

Let the Asians be the unhappy repressed ones

We're all trying to find ourselves out here

I ain't done shyt for school and about to graduate with a bullshyt degree cause I'm lazy, I know things will work out though

They made art degrees for people like you.
Colleges found a way to make money off people who have no business being out there .

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Unmotivated,
greedy, subpar American engineers who create all the innovations the Asians copy? Lemme find out

I shouldn't have to spell things out for a STEM acolyte but here goes; you want people to follow STEM career paths via STEM education. Most people who are engineers WANT to be engineers. Most people who are in art school/major in art are WANT to do that. STEM fields require devotion and dedication. Someone who wants to paint daisies won't make a good engineer. People who are in it ONLY for the money won't make good engineers.

So again, American companies won't be turning away Asians for subpar American engineers. Do you understand now?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I shouldn't have to spell things out for a STEM acolyte but here goes; you want people to follow STEM career paths via STEM education. Most people who are engineers WANT to be engineers. Most people who are in art school/major in art are WANT to do that. STEM fields require devotion and dedication. Someone who wants to paint daisies won't make a good engineer. People who are in it ONLY for the money won't make good engineers.

So again, American companies won't be turning away Asians for subpar American engineers. Do you understand now?

Success in anything requires devotion + dedication. And like I said, artists who study art, have a talent for art and put 100% into it generally do OK. 1/3 of my college were artists, many of them went on to do big + great things... but then again the school is hard as hell to get into.

Coming back to your point though, someone who chooses any major because its the path of least resistance probably won't be successful at anything. And that is how many, if not most folks who do majors like communications, art, history etc make those decisions. They are pressured to go to college, don't know what to do, pick an easy major to squeeze through and get out as painlessly as possible. Is that how you think a successful person operates?

I don't know what the STEM hate is about bruh. For a minute you were making at least as much $$$ as me doing that TSA shyt. What's the problem? We are just having a discussion here. And I want people to do what they want to do. But really think about what they want to do and make informed decisions. Work hard etc. That may or may not be a STEM degree. But I do know in the context of global competitiveness and employability, STEM is a way surer bet, even if its not necessarily what you want to do, than a soft major. So if it comes down to that, I think STEM is the way to go, unless you have a real passion + talent for a soft field.

 

[Brandsdale]

Exhaust all of your resources including all of your contacts. Don't just send out your resume and expect people to call.

yeah that's the plan I've been following.

Where are you working now in the industry might I ask?

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

I don't hate STEM at all. I just don't advocate the saturation of the job market with mediocre graduates. You should be happy about that. It keeps your wages and opportunities high.

Your "path of least resistance" argument is outdated. You can barely get a decent career opportunity with a "relevant" degree in this economy. This isn't the 90s where any degree = cushy corner office. People aren't out there wasting money on Antique Art degrees in the numbers you suggest. Now Business Admin degrees? Political Science? Yeah. And those aren't artsy fartsy degrees either. It's elitist to categorize MOST people who pursue a certain degree as lazy or taking the easy way out. Sitting through art curriculum would be extremely draining for me.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I don't hate STEM at all. I just don't advocate the saturation of the job market with mediocre graduates. You should be happy about that. It keeps your wages and opportunities high.

I am good. And in any case, the kind of work I do can't be commoditized (developing + improving processes).

And mediocrity can come in many forms. But at the end of the day, employers would rather a "mediocre" candidate with relevant skills + degrees to their open positions, than someone enthusiastic about something that has nothing to do with their business. Not to say enthusiasm isn't valuable, but it can only go so far. The bottom line is there are just more opportunities available for STEM graduates, so if the goal is employment it would make sense to go somewhat in that direction, even if it means doing a double major or major minor.

Plus I dont need or want to rely on unnatural forces to keep my wages up. Nor is maximum wage my goal. I could prob make another 10-20K if I stay in NYC for example but I can't stand living here anymore. I would take a good pay cut to live somewhere warmer and cheaper.

Your "path of least resistance" argument is outdated. You can barely get a decent career opportunity with a "relevant" degree in this economy. This isn't the 90s where any degree = cushy corner office. People aren't out there wasting money on Antique Art degrees in the numbers you suggest. Now Business Admin degrees? Political Science? Yeah. And those aren't artsy fartsy degrees either. It's elitist to categorize MOST people who pursue a certain degree as lazy or taking the easy way out. Sitting through art curriculum would be extremely draining for me.

Even in the 90s any degree didn't make for a cushy corner office. Not sure what thats about. But there are a few factors working against college grads right now. 1 the recession. 2 increased global competition. 3, most importantly, there are like twice as many college grads since 20 yrs ago. So yea regardless of a degree its harder.

I am not saying these people are lazy. I have said before I have beef with the whole college admissions process. A lot of kids make bad decisions because they don't have the time or guidance to go the way they should. They don't have the foresight to see the consequences of their decisions. And now with shyt ramping up, those decisions are even more important. But even still, they are bad decisions, and I still think there is an element of short term pain avoidance that goes into the decision. Some kids see the value in that short term pain for long term gain and end up more successful. So its not all the kids fault. But the fact that some kids are able to succeed in the fukked up system shows its not completely hopeless or out of the kids hands.

And yea its rough out there but BA & Polysci are nowhere near the top of the list of majors with highest UE. So while they (and all) grads have it bad now they dont have it anywhere near the worst.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I put it like this... I had an ex, Ukranian... she studied mech engineering with me but had no plans or desire to be an engineer. It was a stepping stone for her to get her MBA. Shes working for IBM now making big bucks. Out of the 50-60 female engineers in my year, maybe 2-3 were Americans. So I think there is an attitude in the US that pushes people who could do STEM if they tried from doing it, either because of social stigma or fear of work/failure.

 

[mson]

I will rather copy and steal technology than steal basket weaving and pot painting!

I'm just saying there's a reason why the Asians are copying us and lack imagination is one of them.

yeah that's the plan I've been following.

Where are you working now in the industry might I ask?

I'm a tech op for a local news station.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

you nikkas act like stem majors are the goat

but when i tell people i'm a math/physics major y'all look at me like "you want to be a teacher or some shyt? "