Sorry Jay, I'm Not Buying It

[Mike Otherz]

Now? what u mean "Now?

He spoke on the trayvon incident a year ago

He's visibly showed his support for trayvon and eric gardner even b4 the announcement of Tidal

This idea that he's been this individual devoid of speaking consciously on social issues..is outright falsehoods..

On his albums he speaks on our struggles and injustices a good amount


Have u heard RD?
Have u heard Vol.1
Have u heard Vol. 2

Have u heard American Gangster

Matter fact the fact yall even insinuating this man just became socially conscious due to tidal has to come from a place of either sinful hate or just outright amnesia


Blacks becoming demons towards they own kind

exactly, this the type of misinformation thats being put out there to confuse people. its some sinister shyt, even if you dont fx with jay, you shouldnt be passing along falsehoods and lies like its truth and besmirching dudes character. cats really making up fantasies now.

 

[rapbeats]

yea but you buying 2 cds a month is your choice when you walk into the store. once you hand over your card info, they taking that money out.

also, the artists drove fans to mp3-life as much as anything. remember hearing artist Y's first single and it being greaT? you went to the record store, bought the 15-track album and it had maybe 3 hot songs - inlcuding the one you already heard. mp3s were a great way of filtering out what you didn't like.

futhermore, only a small percentage of people are audiophiles like that where they could tell the difference. and if you're favorite artist is gucci or something, is clearer audio really going to matter?

listen you dont have to take me down memory lane. i remember walking into tower records and seeing a CD for $16 when the only thing i heard was that one song that was hot. bought it, come to find out he had 3 more hot sons out of like 16 tracks. terrible. But we're just doing the math. if you're the TYPE of person that would purchase 2 albums a month or more. Tidal is for you. If not? Tidal aint for you. its really that simple.

If you are a bootlegging downloader. why are you in this conversation at all? oh i know. you gotta hate on jay z thats why.

If you dont buy that much music, and youre down with a low quality audio file. then stick with the spotify and the likes. Its not that hard to figure out people. now when it comes to functionality, etc. Tidal needs to really tighten up in that dept. but that was the same issue with spotify when they first started and every other music streaming service. they all go thru serious bumps and bruises before they end up successful or not.

 

[rapbeats]

exactly, this the type of misinformation thats being put out there to confuse people. its some sinister shyt, even if you dont fx with jay, you shouldnt be passing along falsehoods and lies like its truth and besmirching dudes character. cats really making up fantasies now.

notice.. non of those clowns replied to that long post i had in there about what Jay really has done charity wise. cause there is no reply to the facts.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

#TidaLost

 

[rapbeats]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

all them water for Africa marketing ish was done to promote American gangster
wake up fool

and LOL at bolding 2.5K
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Even I got more cash then that sucka!!!!

so africa water was all marketing. fine. he still kicked htem money. see you over here trying to stretch your lies into truths. notice you didnt address any of the other things he was involved in. you know why? you couldnt figure out how to stretch those. LOL. HAAAAAA back at you. stop the lies.

where's your proof. i presented mine. You in hear lying in court with zero evidence. talking about "the man is guilty. cause i said so." nucca... who is YOu?

 

[Mike Otherz]

notice.. non of those clowns replied to that long post i had in there about what Jay really has done charity wise. cause there is no reply to the facts.

yep.

 

[rapbeats]

I get it with the sound quality...ok I'm wit ya. But that 20.00 has to be paid every month...when I bought a cd I paid once but kept the music forever...you can't keep a streaming service forever with a one time payment. Spotify,Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, pandora...they all get this logic...u can't charge the same for a product that has an expiration as you can for a product that last forever...which is why they charge 6.99 or less many times. JZ wants you to pay 20.00 over and over for his cd...that will never work when it's largely available for free basically. With the perks if he dropped the price he may break even I'd guess, but spotify and those companies don't charge what they charge and offer the artists what they do for just any ol' reason. They do it because it is the optimal formula for insuring a large consumer base and decent profit margin based on the service music provides. JZ got a hair up is rectum (pause) and suddenly just thought he could rearrange the game...consumer services biz is a lil different

hey i agree with you on keeping the music forever.
But you also couldnt guaranteed play your CD on multiple platforms. you had 3.

CD player at home, CD player in the car, Disc Man. And you could only hold X amt of CD's.

Lets say on the high end, that dude that use to walk around with 50 to 100 in a giant case like an idiot.

I can have 100's of CD's at my disposal EVERY month. could you have 100's of CD's new and old at your disposal every single month back in the day? NO.

could you forget your cd at ya boys house and still play the music at your house? NOPE. what if they broke into your car back in the day... it was OVER. nuccas took ya mixtapes, everything. all those exclusives you had. GONE forever. When that Cd got scratched up or you forgot that you left it in the hot car for too long. OVER.

Here's the truth. is the way the industry should've have gone right after Napster. but they kept fighting it.

It should've been teirs, platinum, gold, silver, bronze.

Bronze is add heavy, still cd quality but less Albums or songs you can have per month. That gold tier you have access to all of the big three(used to be the big 4 with EMI, which was bought up by sony and Universal)

Universal Music Group
Sony BMG (Sony and BMG joint-venture)
Warner Music Group


imagine having access to their entire catalog. plus all the artists side projects(mixtapes, one offs, collabos you didnt even know they did, remixes you have never heard, instrumentals, acapellas(for the Dj's) and beat makers.

OLD and new stuff. that would've been the best setup for both parties. cause more people would've just signed up and called it a new cable bill. and said eff it..i'm buying music anyway. might as well have that crazy access.

 

[rapbeats]

#Ihateblackbusiness

^^fixed for accuracy

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

^^fixed for accuracy

#TidaLost

 

[Goatpoacher]

I fukks with Jay, but I'm not stupid. He's trying to co-opt the press on Tidal and turn it into a Big Man vs. Little man, underdog, black vs. white type of rap feud. He's trying to politic the narrative and make it about the evil white corporation vs. the poor black hustler from Marcy trying to fight the system.

No Jay. You got caught being greedy and out of touch. You don't get to "come home" and make it a hip-hop thing. You don't get to trot Sigel out on stage under the guise of being that relatable dude that's about us.

This ain't about slavery, this ain't about Mike Brown, you don't get to make a martyr of yourself by mentioning those things when it's convenient. The nerve of using those terms while promoting a service that's all about charging more of my hard earned money to provide an inferior product and line your pockets.

You compete with Spotify by providing a better service or a cheaper service, like anything else in the market.

BTW, this was exceptionally well stated.

 

[Gravity]

I fukks with Jay, but I'm not stupid. He's trying to co-opt the press on Tidal and turn it into a Big Man vs. Little man, underdog, black vs. white type of rap feud. He's trying to politic the narrative and make it about the evil white corporation vs. the poor black hustler from Marcy trying to fight the system.

No Jay. You got caught being greedy and out of touch. You don't get to "come home" and make it a hip-hop thing. You don't get to trot Sigel out on stage under the guise of being that relatable dude that's about us.

This ain't about slavery, this ain't about Mike Brown, you don't get to make a martyr of yourself by mentioning those things when it's convenient. The nerve of using those terms while promoting a service that's all about charging more of my hard earned money to provide an inferior product and line your pockets.

You compete with Spotify by providing a better service or a cheaper service, like anything else in the market.

Yea because this is the first time that Jay Z has sprinkled in political commentary in his lyrics or called out the system when it has discriminated against him personally. Ain't nothing changed bruh.

 

[Edub]

hey i agree with you on keeping the music forever.
But you also couldnt guaranteed play your CD on multiple platforms. you had 3.

CD player at home, CD player in the car, Disc Man. And you could only hold X amt of CD's.

Lets say on the high end, that dude that use to walk around with 50 to 100 in a giant case like an idiot.

I can have 100's of CD's at my disposal EVERY month. could you have 100's of CD's new and old at your disposal every single month back in the day? NO.

could you forget your cd at ya boys house and still play the music at your house? NOPE. what if they broke into your car back in the day... it was OVER. nuccas took ya mixtapes, everything. all those exclusives you had. GONE forever. When that Cd got scratched up or you forgot that you left it in the hot car for too long. OVER.

Here's the truth. is the way the industry should've have gone right after Napster. but they kept fighting it.

It should've been teirs, platinum, gold, silver, bronze.

Bronze is add heavy, still cd quality but less Albums or songs you can have per month. That gold tier you have access to all of the big three(used to be the big 4 with EMI, which was bought up by sony and Universal)

Universal Music Group
Sony BMG (Sony and BMG joint-venture)
Warner Music Group


imagine having access to their entire catalog. plus all the artists side projects(mixtapes, one offs, collabos you didnt even know they did, remixes you have never heard, instrumentals, acapellas(for the Dj's) and beat makers.

OLD and new stuff. that would've been the best setup for both parties. cause more people would've just signed up and called it a new cable bill. and said eff it..i'm buying music anyway. might as well have that crazy access.

I agree...right after napster is when they should have came like this...it would have been normal social practice by now...but their disorganization over the years has allowed listeners to get used to getting what they want how they want at a nominal fee...to all the sudden present it like a "keep the lights on" utility bill is a shaky gamble at this point...but I do agree that digital does allow for more diverse listening platforms and options...but they need to market this aspect more than that bullshyt rah rah speech Madonna was givin to the nation...cuz that persuaded no one

 

[rapbeats]

I agree...right after napster is when they should have came like this...it would have been normal social practice by now...but their disorganization over the years has allowed listeners to get used to getting what they want how they want at a nominal fee...to all the sudden present it like a "keep the lights on" utility bill is a shaky gamble at this point...but I do agree that digital does allow for more diverse listening platforms and options...but they need to market this aspect more than that bullshyt rah rah speech Madonna was givin to the nation...cuz that persuaded no one

well they hoped the PEOPLE (99%ers) would understand how it feels to do work and not get paid properly for the work you've performed. Since it happens to us 99%ers everyday. but just like during a NBA lockout. the 99%ers are to stupid to see the chess game going on. we still playing checkers. We get upset with the ball players "aww poor little rich ball player... look at how rich you are, still asking for more." While the owners making 3 times that amt and more are laughing not touching one ball, not taking one charge. People do not get economics. They only hate on those closest to them so they think. Let me hate on lebron getting more money cause i think i know him. but i dont know dan gilbert's rich a... so i'll cut him some slack. thats a pathetic line of thinking that most 99%ers have. Which is why we are the 99% to begin with. We dont believe we deserve anything, so we dont think anyone else thats a worker should get any more then they current have. big money owners are just the opposite. they will have more then their fair share and still cry about not having enough.

Jay, Be, Maddona, etc are what could happen if a regular were to have elite talent and everything spots up in the right position at the right time. but these people were still regular joes like you and me before they blew up.

a lot of these owners were never regular joes. they came from families of $$$$. They are trying to tell the people, hey people we are at the top of the food chain for artists. and they are still cheating us. just like they cheat you. THEY being large corporations. Come join us and lets take this thing back ourselves via the internet. But again 99%ers cant understand this logic because we thought the nba players made too much and we believed some owners were really going broke. then out of no where you find out the nba made some TV deal for billions. that didnt happen over night that was in the works pre lockout. the owners knew it. but they cried wolf like they always due and the fans went for it like always.

at what point do us regular joes and janes wake the eff up?

sounding like a bunch of republican broke white people yelling about they hate unions. not realizing if it wasnt for unions in these sectors of work, you your brokeself would make even less money. That union stuff you hate is the main reason they have to pay you what they pay you now. even if you are not in a union. so many union workers have set the price point. but because a bunch of million/billionaires says all unions are bad. you dummies 99ers believe it. no unions are not 100% perfect. but they are sure as hell better then non at all. No tidal isnt perfect. but that sure as hell is better then watching regular joes become stars and still watch them get raped. rape is rape...back alley or at a room in the Ritz-Carlton.

 

[Budda]

Cause its popular to be the conscious mc.

Prophet nas

 

[McPiff]

well they hoped the PEOPLE (99%ers) would understand how it feels to do work and not get paid properly for the work you've performed. Since it happens to us 99%ers everyday. but just like during a NBA lockout. the 99%ers are to stupid to see the chess game going on. we still playing checkers. We get upset with the ball players "aww poor little rich ball player... look at how rich you are, still asking for more." While the owners making 3 times that amt and more are laughing not touching one ball, not taking one charge. People do not get economics. They only hate on those closest to them so they think. Let me hate on lebron getting more money cause i think i know him. but i dont know dan gilbert's rich a... so i'll cut him some slack. thats a pathetic line of thinking that most 99%ers have. Which is why we are the 99% to begin with. We dont believe we deserve anything, so we dont think anyone else thats a worker should get any more then they current have. big money owners are just the opposite. they will have more then their fair share and still cry about not having enough.

Jay, Be, Maddona, etc are what could happen if a regular were to have elite talent and everything spots up in the right position at the right time. but these people were still regular joes like you and me before they blew up.

a lot of these owners were never regular joes. they came from families of $$$$. They are trying to tell the people, hey people we are at the top of the food chain for artists. and they are still cheating us. just like they cheat you. THEY being large corporations. Come join us and lets take this thing back ourselves via the internet. But again 99%ers cant understand this logic because we thought the nba players made too much and we believed some owners were really going broke. then out of no where you find out the nba made some TV deal for billions. that didnt happen over night that was in the works pre lockout. the owners knew it. but they cried wolf like they always due and the fans went for it like always.

at what point do us regular joes and janes wake the eff up?

sounding like a bunch of republican broke white people yelling about they hate unions. not realizing if it wasnt for unions in these sectors of work, you your brokeself would make even less money. That union stuff you hate is the main reason they have to pay you what they pay you now. even if you are not in a union. so many union workers have set the price point. but because a bunch of million/billionaires says all unions are bad. you dummies 99ers believe it. no unions are not 100% perfect. but they are sure as hell better then non at all. No tidal isnt perfect. but that sure as hell is better then watching regular joes become stars and still watch them get raped. rape is rape...back alley or at a room in the Ritz-Carlton.

Dont. HURT. THEM.