the next guy
Superstar
I oppose the salary cap. It solves nothing.
Sources: Phillies' Bryce Harper cussed out Rob Manfred in meeting
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mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
And in that time, the Pirates owners were given a plot of land and $216 million for their stadium.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Deferred contracts have been around forever and everyone forgets, that last year is gonna hit so hard, the owners who just bought the Lakers for $10B will be tryna get outta the business before they gotta pay that Ohtani lump sum.
Soto just got $765 mil and some were happy like "well at least he wanted everything up front."
The downside to deferrals is when you have a team like the Reds where Ken Griffey Jr was still one of their highest paid players as of last year.
It's nicknamed the Cohen Tax. The draft penalties exist. There's a desire to not go over that apron just like in basketball. It can cost you in the international market. Even team in big markets are terrified of it.Look what your Celtics had to do this off-season. Of course Tatum's injury played a huge part. Imagine something similar in baseball.
Dorian Breh
Veteran
People are like “the salary cap works in other leagues”
How? Because of “parity”? What a joke.
In basketball we’re about to watch the two teams that just were in the championship get all of their role players, who were important to the teams identity, leave on deals that are not possible to match.
In football your star quarterbacks end up wasting their primes because once they have proven they are stars they are no longer on rookie deals and the team can’t afford to pay the players.
In both sports we have superstar players taking pay cuts so that their supporting cast can stay. Why should the player take a pay cut when the owner could just pay them more? Because the owner cannot just pay them more because of the salary cap.
There is enough chaos in sports with injuries and hot streaks that we don’t need a salary cap for parity.
Not like there’s parity in the NFL anyway…
How? Because of “parity”? What a joke.
In basketball we’re about to watch the two teams that just were in the championship get all of their role players, who were important to the teams identity, leave on deals that are not possible to match.
In football your star quarterbacks end up wasting their primes because once they have proven they are stars they are no longer on rookie deals and the team can’t afford to pay the players.
In both sports we have superstar players taking pay cuts so that their supporting cast can stay. Why should the player take a pay cut when the owner could just pay them more? Because the owner cannot just pay them more because of the salary cap.
There is enough chaos in sports with injuries and hot streaks that we don’t need a salary cap for parity.
Not like there’s parity in the NFL anyway…
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Can you imagine bad baseball general managers with a salary cap? Teams with bad front offices would go on long term skids like the present day jets or 1993-2012 pirates even more frequently.
baseball is not basketball or football. in those sports there are players you pay to want to see. Baseball trades those players away to teams with money.
i keep going back to Skenes and might as was add O’Neil Cruz. i would be so geeked to have two of the most exciting players if I’m am a Pit fan. But soon as you go into any baseball talk it’s all but a done deal they getting traded. That just will kill a young fan love for the game.
owners need to spend more
and players have to know these 300 million deals are not good for the future of the sport.
it has to be a middle somewhere
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
Be funny af if Mannfred mandated that clip be played at every Phillies game. Worst commish in all of N. American sports by a country mile
Get the fukk outta the clubhouse you piece of shyt !!!
William Heavy
All Star
I'm all for players maximizing their worth, but the disparity in baseball is crazy. If you a fan of the Yankees, Dodgers, and other large market teams you hate a salary cap. If you have a handful of teams that have insane payrolls, and most small market teams have small payrolls why even have 30 teams? What's the incentive of a fan of like the Pirates or Reds to spend their hard earned money to watch teams that suck year after year? A team located in OKC would have a difficult time winning a championship in baseball unless they have great scouting and win with a young team. Then they would see their young stars leave in free agency after 6 years. But a team in a small market like OKC can be the best in the NBA and pay their stars.
MLB at least has to have a salary floor. Scum bag owners like John Fisher just pocket the money they collect from other teams paying luxury tax.
MLB at least has to have a salary floor. Scum bag owners like John Fisher just pocket the money they collect from other teams paying luxury tax.
Nope @VegetasHairline say everything is fine because he the only person who watches baseball.
keep this shyt as is
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Nope @VegetasHairline say everything is fine because he the only person who watches baseball.
keep this shyt as is
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
I mean, it's like saying PEDs aren't a guarantee that you'll hit 50 HRs, but it certainly helps to tilt things in your favor a lot of the time
The Dodgers & Yankees are ALWAYS in contention, whereas other teams come & go because they can't just throw money at people the way they do.
You brought up The Royals & The Rangers.
Both are already mostly out of contention
ALonelyDad
Veteran
I think the owners should offer these players to smoke weed and then the players should agree to everything the owners say
Anyone that sides with owners/leagues in the 2025 is a fukking mong 
Youre getting priced out to watch someone dribble a ball, throw a football, or swing a bat but its the players fault
Youre getting priced out to watch someone dribble a ball, throw a football, or swing a bat but its the players fault
I've already had this argument on here before about a cap in baseball and too many of these guys want to bury their head in the sand (a lot of them are NY/LA fans too).
MLB and NBA revenue is roughly the same. Their teams do not spend anywhere near the same on player salaries. One league has a cap and floor; the other does not.
In the NBA, OKC pays over $800 million in guaranteed contracts to lock down their three best players. In MLB, Kansas City is not doing that.
The Cavs are spending $243 million on their roster next season; the Guardians are spending $102 million on theirs right now.
Everybody has access to Spotrac. Here's the NBA and MLB team salary pages:
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MLB payrolls are a combined $5.2 billion this season; the NBA payrolls are over $6.1 billion for the upcoming season as it stands. The average MLB team is spending $173 million and the average NBA team is spending $204 million.
All but four NBA teams are spending more than the MLB average.
Four MLB players have a cap hit of $40 million or more. Let's call it five because Ohtani's contract is gaming the system. 26 guys in the NBA are gonna be making over $40 million in 2025-26. Jamal Murray is making more than Aaron Judge.
There is no metric somebody could go by that says MLB not having a cap (with a floor) is better for their players than the current NBA system.
In Major League Baseball, I'll be generous and say half the league will try in free agency. For the very best players, there's only four or five that are competing to spend top dollar. When Ohtani was a free agent, were there even five teams seriously trying to sign him? If Luka hit free agency in a year, every team in the league would clear the decks if they could sign him.
In the NBA, Cleveland pays Donovan Mitchell. In MLB, Cleveland trades him.
In the NBA, Milwaukee stretches and waives Lillard and signs Myles Turner (not defending it, just saying they're willing to spend). In MLB, Milwaukee is always looking to trim payroll.
In the NBA, Orlando trades for Desmond Bane AFTER paying Paolo, Franz and Suggs. In MLB, Tampa is bottom five in payroll every year.
In the NBA, Indiana trades for Pascal Siakam and maxes him out. In MLB...
The other three main leagues force their owners to spend to a certain threshold. MLB should be doing the same and that also comes with a cap. People talk like an MLB cap would be $150 million. That's ridiculous.
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Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Always in contention? They’ve missed the playoffs entirely more than they’ve won their division since 2013 despite multiple teams in it refusing to spend any money at all. From 1981-93 they missed the playoffs every year.I mean, it's like saying PEDs aren't a guarantee that you'll hit 50 HRs, but it certainly helps to tilt things in your favor a lot of the time
The Dodgers & Yankees are ALWAYS in contention, whereas other teams come & go because they can't just throw money at people the way they do.
You brought up The Royals & The Rangers.
Both are already mostly out of contention