Spanking doesn’t improve a child’s behavior or social competence -- it can make behavior worse.

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A light slap on the wrist is ok with some great talking is good parenting:yeshrug:

The belt coming out and shyt is not always 100% helpful and can damage the kid.
 

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all spanking does is teach that violence is the obstacle. when there is no more fear of violence, the person does not benefit from learned ethics as to why they should or should not do something. that is ok for a very small child, but as you get older, you must have a philosophy that governs your actions and thoughts.
 

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Proverbs 13:24

“He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.”

More modern translation...

“Those who spare the rod of discipline hate their children. Those who love their children care enough to discipline them.”


You don’t have to always physically discipline your children, but discipline, correction, and guidance is necessary.
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All that shyt subjective and situational. I say that as a man with 2 young boys. Sometimes it calls for it and sometimes it doesn’t and all you need to do is talk to them. But when you keep talking and talking and saying the same shyt and it’s not registering thru their head, that’s when you gotta whoop some ass and make them understand. Again, I ain’t saying this shyt on the outside looking in like most mothafukkas do. Me as the father just gotta know when the situation calls for it and when it does call for it, not to go overboard but don’t be a pushover either.

Especially as a father. Can’t be the first resort to whoop some ass but at the same time the last thing imma do is keep repeating myself and telling to stop doing shyt you know you not supposed to be doing. I’m talking 5, 6, 7 times of “stop son! Don’t do that son” yadda yadda. And best believe my kids don’t “resent” me or fear me on the level where they’re scared to be near me and won’t come to me because they fear an ass whopping. Be firm.
:jbhmm: teaching is also important, did/do you instill discipline through your kids (not necessarily a beating) but teaching them behavior that isn't right before it happens? Ex. Whenever I see a kid wander in a grocery store in peoples way and throwing tantrums, imo those kids were taught that isn't positive behavior in any environment. So the parent has to spank because they are irritated and maybe embarrassed compared to showing why it's wrong to do that.
 

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If you beat your kids for having a C or F in school you are a piece of shyt parent. Beat them because they went in the fridge when they were not supposed to or didn’t do the chores when you asked, you are a piece of shyt parent if it takes you to have to put your adult hands on them to get the point. A lot of people are horrible fukking parents and beat they kids ass to cover up for that to make themselves believe it’s the child that’s the issue. You can talk to your child and explain things to them like they are a person and they will listen to you if you do it right. Better to show children how the real world works early. You don’t act right, I take things away from you. You won’t get a damn thing back until you act right.

A good parent doesn’t have to worry about a child calling them out they name or some bullshyt . What type of parent are you to where your child would even think they could get away with disrespecting you?Maybe they got it from how you talk to your spouse, or how you don’t give them attention and neglect them. My kids get checked if they act up and they don’t require physical abuse for them to be corrected by way of consequence. They know right from wrong because it was instilled in them and getting yelled at if necessary is usually enough to scare them to know you are serious. My kids are polite and when they get caught doing something they not supposed to they either cry get nervous because they know they disappointed me. I didn’t have to hurt them to make them feel those same emotions of guilt and shame. In the real world, if you act up on the job you are getting fired and will be homeless. Don’t nobody gotta hurt you physically for you to understand that and not do it
Described my approach to a T.

When your kids revere you and are afraid to disappoint you then you’ve won the game.
 
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Hitting is not discipline, it's punishment. Physical punishment is sometimes necessary for extreme behaviors that require severe correction but if kids have discipline instilled in them don't need physical punishment on a regular basis and if that's your go-to form of discipline or punishment then you're a shytty parent.

So when you plan on having kids, cause punishment and discipline go hand in hand more often than you think....
 

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if we keepin it all the way 100 spanking is kinda :wrist: bruh

just slap that mothafukka hard on the back of his neck and remind him to mind his manners
 

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I see, I was of the opinion that I'd never hit my kids when I'd have some because I was at the wrong end of the stick growing up, but I'm starting to contemplate. Maybe some violence is necessary in some specific instances, like the one you described.

The adage “if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail” is appropriate here. You need to look at consequences as tools to teach not tools to punish…on my tool belt I have:
  1. Talk, with normal tone of voice
  2. Talk, with bass in voice
  3. Yell, with normal tone of voice
  4. Yell, staccato with bass in voice
  5. Limit access to toy, game, activity, friends, playtime outside
  6. Spanking
I use these progressively so if he…

Plays with toys on the coffee table in the living room: 1 > 2 > 5 (this will never progress to spanking)
Running around stove while food is cooking: 2 > 4 > 6
Not doing homework: 1 > 2 > 5
Hitting his Mom: 6
Hitting women in his family: 2 > 6


Communicating Thoughts
Talking is used to communicate a rule or a desired behavior
Yelling is used to get his attention
Bass is used to convey seriousness/urgency

Consequences
Limiting access is to show how bad behavior/lack of focus/lack of following rules translates into an undesirable state of being.
Spanking is the escalation for yelling…if aural stimulation isn’t a catalyst for the child to slow down and course correct we progress to physical stimulation.
 
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Growing up my parents never spanked on me or my siblings. :yeshrug:

Then again, we were always good kids. Whenever we'd act up they would resort to other non-physical measures because our parents hated to see us cry about anything, they just wanted us to be happy and feel loved, bringing us to tears would make them feel bad.

What some ppl don't understand is that due to young children's brains not being fully developed in understanding certain concepts, some kids may take spankings as something deeper than just a discipline tactic and may come to believe that you hate them and wind up holding a grudge into their adult age hating you, the parent.
 

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The adage “if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail” is appropriate here. You need to look at consequences as tools to teach not tools to punish…on my tool belt I have:
  1. Talk, with normal tone of voice
  2. Talk, with bass in voice
  3. Yell, with normal tone of voice
  4. Yell, staccato with bass in voice
  5. Limit access to toy, game, activity, friends, playtime outside
  6. Spanking
I use these progressively so if he…

Plays with toys on the coffee table in the living room: 1 > 2 > 5 (this will never progress to spanking)
Running around stove while food is cooking: 2 > 4 > 6
Not doing homework: 1 > 2 > 5
Hitting his Mom: 6
Hitting women in his family: 2 > 6


Communicating Thoughts
Talking is used to communicate a rule or a desired behavior
Yelling is used to get his attention
Bass is used to convey seriousness/urgency

Consequences
Limiting access is to show how bad behavior/lack of focus/lack of following rules translates into an undesirable state of being.
Spanking is the escalation for yelling…if aural stimulation isn’t a catalyst for the child to slow down and course correct we progress to physical stimulation.
This nikka got a flowchart:dead::dead::dead:

But this is more effort than most parents would ever attempt:salute:
 
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