Spanking doesn’t improve a child’s behavior or social competence -- it can make behavior worse.

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:francis: Learnt some anti social behaviors through getting my hide tore up that I have had to ween out of system as an adult.

Kids dont see the discipline aspect, they just interpret a spanking as "showing little regard for physical/mental being" so of course that transfers out to how they interact with others.
Thats because your parents were lazy and didnt guide you with the ass whooping. They just beat your ass. Thats not discipline, thats consequence.
 

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If parents beat their kids for the same silly reasons as slave masters, then they don't need to have any children..

Besides, the window of opportunity for effective spankings is so small.. If the kid isn't on the right track by 8 years old, then it's going to be a hard battle..

I agree, as does OP, but it doesn’t change the facts :yeshrug:
 

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There's a difference between a swat on the ass with :ufdup: "don't do it again!"

And

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Some of y'all looked like the latter or
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Talking bout "whoopins don't work! They just made me hate xXxX."

Well you should hate whomever beat the piss out of you cause that wasn't a whoopin, that was child abuse.
 

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First off, know your child so you don’t use the same punishment indiscriminately for everybody, b/c it doesn’t work.

Secondly, decontextualized physical punishment doesn’t work because the child doesn’t make the connection between why physical pain is happening and what they did wrong.

That’s why JUST hitting doesn’t work. Also it builds up tolerance in children until you have to go farther and farther before you get results.

That’s why you need to use physical punishment sparingly. Most discipline should be mental due to the respect they should already have for your authority. And reinforcing your authority happens with everything you do, not just when they do something bad.

Lastly, once again, know your child. Some kids actually prefer beatings to lectures. For me, I could take a whipping. But putting me in an isolated room. No books, video games, just staring at a wall with nothing to do was straight up torture.

Also the lectures. From mother and father and granny and uncles, and church members, and neighbors, that old chick at the cleaners.
THAT shyt is what did me in. Hoards of people digging into the psychology behind your fukk ups. Again and again and again, until you can’t hide from them. The mental dissection where you are splayed out on the table and they are surgically cutting apart every excuse you put forth for your behavior. THAT is the most effective shyt EVER. Because even when you beat somebody, they can still rebel in their private thoughts. But when you force somebody to break down and admit the REAL reasoning behind their dumb ass actions, it’s :whoo:
It’s like a type of forced accountability. There was nowhere you could hide in my family. It also makes you very introspective and gives you great insight into other’s behavior too. When you’re forced to know yourself and all the dumb ass excuses you make up for why you do the dumb shyt you do, it really sheds light on others as well.
:yeshrug: But that process is gut-wrenching. It’s like condensing years of therapy into a single session and force feeding your child with it. I actually would have preferred the belt if that’s all that came with it.:mjlol:
That shyt made us always think twice, thrice, many times before we did dumb shyt. That’s also why peer pressure didn’t work on us.

Aint shyt some snotty nosed little kid could do or say to you when your family is touched in the head. :yeshrug:
 

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Whoopings don’t work. Some of the worst nikkas in jail used to get they ass beat everyday growing up lol.
It’s more to it than just beating the hell out of your kids. They still have to know in the back of their minds that you love them and there has to be some redirection, or it’s just abuse.
 

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Even if they were :comeon:

that wasn’t how they treated their KIDS. Black mothers in AmeriKKKa whupped their kids to straighten them out before massa did because massa would REALLY get in that ass.

But spanking/whipping was the preferred form of punishment on plantations in AmeriKKKa. These people were stripped of all of their culture, language, names, religion, everything. They learned soaking from slave masters.

bro there’s no way you’re really equating a child getting a spanking to fukking slavery

and if you think we didn’t keep some practices from Africa I’m done with the convo
 

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First off, know your child so you don’t use the same punishment indiscriminately for everybody, b/c it doesn’t work.

Secondly, decontextualized physical punishment doesn’t work because the child doesn’t make the connection between why physical pain is happening and what they did wrong.

That’s why JUST hitting doesn’t work. Also it builds up tolerance in children until you have to go farther and farther before you get results.

That’s why you need to use physical punishment sparingly. Most discipline should be mental due to the respect they should already have for your authority. And reinforcing your authority happens with everything you do, not just when they do something bad.

Lastly, once again, know your child. Some kids actually prefer beatings to lectures. For me, I could take a whipping. But putting me in an isolated room. No books, video games, just staring at a wall with nothing to do was straight up torture.

Also the lectures. From mother and father and granny and uncles, and church members, and neighbors, that old chick at the cleaners.
THAT shyt is what did me in. Hoards of people digging into the psychology behind your fukk ups. Again and again and again, until you can’t hide from them. The mental dissection where you are splayed out on the table and they are surgically cutting apart every excuse you put forth for your behavior. THAT is the most effective shyt EVER. Because even when you beat somebody, they can still rebel in their private thoughts. But when you force somebody to break down and admit the REAL reasoning behind their dumb ass actions, it’s
:whoo:
It’s like a type of forced accountability. There was nowhere you could hide in my family. It also makes you very introspective and gives you great insight into other’s behavior too. When you’re forced to know yourself and all the dumb ass excuses you make up for why you do the dumb shyt you do, it really sheds light on others as well.
:yeshrug: But that process is gut-wrenching. It’s like condensing years of therapy into a single session and force feeding your child with it. I actually would have preferred the belt if that’s all that came with it.:mjlol:
That shyt made us always think twice, thrice, many times before we did dumb shyt. That’s also why peer pressure didn’t work on us.

Aint shyt some snotty nosed little kid could do or say to you when your family is touched in the head. :yeshrug:

All of this.. Especially the bold.. Shyt is actually deeper than most people want to admit.. And you can only do the bold if you are able to see yourself in your kids..
 

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The method of punishment is less important than the CONSISTENCY of punishment.

If you learn nothing else about children learn this: they need to be reassured that your boundaries and rules are firm. They will test to see what they can get away with, and in a fukked up way they grow to appreciate the consistency that you show them because the world outside your home is chaotic.

I know even as a thirty year old man that if I test my mother she will behave exactly as she did when I was 13. There is something reassuring in knowing your parents won't play around and let you disrespect them and what they've built for you.

Does that mean I'll spank my kids? No. What it means is ill be firm in my disciplinary actions and not deviate. The punishment for stealing won't change depending on what or when or where they stole. The punishment for disrespectful language won't change regardless of what was said, when, how many times or where. Etc. You think you can embarrass me in the store and I won't do shyt? :ufdup:

Think you can cause a scene in the restaurant and I won't do nothing? :ufdup:

Think you can lie about me at school and I won't find out and leave work to find your ass? :ufdup:
 
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