Spanking doesn’t improve a child’s behavior or social competence -- it can make behavior worse.

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I doubt it’s the beatings that worked, he probably learned how to get his own way without angering his father.

These studies also claim that children who were regularly beaten are more likely to end up in prison and use violence as a means to an end than those who were sat down and spoken to.
Exactly, all whoopins taught me was to not go to my dad for problems and issues and made me sneakier.
 

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Conduct as many studies as u want... when I have kids if they continue to be disobedient after being told to correct their behavior I will utilize physical discipline. :ufdup:

And best believe they will learn from a young age. :ufdup:
Nothing worse than seeing people tell their kids the same thing over and over while the child is like :pachaha::comeon:. :smugfavre:

I will say with marriage, raising children, and managing a home you shouldn't go in knowing how things supposed to go. Cause what works for one person isn't going to work for you.
 
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Punishment doesn't change behavior its a consequence of behavior

Physical punishment is just that a punishment

Physical beating your kids is pitiful to be honest, a sign you cannot control what you have created and most people do it because they can't physically dominate anybody else and take it out on their kids which is the ultimate coward move.

Only thing that correct behavior is the teaching of correct behavior

you can't beat your kids forever, what you gonna do when they are grown you can't whoop then anymore

Fear is love

Your kids are suppose to fear you, because they love you.

Fear disappoint you, fear embarrassing you, fear not living up to your expectations, fear of fallen short of your praise, if your kids do not look up to you, then you have failed as a parent and aren't worthy to raise children might as well give them up for adoption.
 
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Whoopings don't matter as much as the quality of the parent.

A good parent that gives out whoopings is more effective than a bad parent that gives out whoopings.

The real question is: if both sets of parents are "good"........is it better to whoop the kid or not? This comes down to the child. My wife was a good kid that never got into trouble. Worse thing she may have done was pop off at the mouth. Her mom AND dad said as much.

Me? I was a good-troublemaker. Basically I got straight A's and mostly stayed out of trouble but would have fights, cuss in class (and get sent to the hallway), get demerits and some trips to the principal's office. The kind of kid that doesn't need a whooping all the time but did enough to warrant some parental intervention from time-to-time.

I stopped getting whoopings at 12. Parents were like "you're a good kid but if you act like a knucklehead........we don't have the money to get you out of lockup. You're young, black and small (graduated HS at 145 lbs).....so you'd be food in there." They did a good job of making sure I realized that I gotta hold my own nutz.

All the immigrant kids I know...Vietnamese, Filipino, Nigerian, Ethiopian, Indian etc., got stern discipline at home with some whoopings. They all got good grades and now work in great careers. Main difference between POC and white parents is that white parents allow their kids to talk A LOT of shyt; stuff I'd never say to my parents.

White kids are taught to challenge authority while sometimes POC will teach their kids to submit to authority. There's logic in that when it comes to dealing with cops and stuff but that's one thing we have to be mindful of when raising our kids. Obedience can be a double-edged sword.
 

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I remember every wooping I got. I also remember being put in solitary confinement, couldn’t go outside, no games, no tv and just having to “read”.

it’s something about hearing your friend knock on the door and your parents telling them you can’t come out side and subsequently hearing them run off and play with out you, shyt hit different. :wow:

or staring at your games, shyt you done beat and played hella times start looking like brand new games :mjcry:

Or that time I got banned from watching wrestling. Hearing all the shyt that went down at school, and Knowjng I couldn’t partake in the water cooler talk :damn:

I think as an adult looking back I prefer the whoopings over other punishments but as a kid, the anxiety you had on the ride home knowing you was bout to catch an L was something that’s hard to explain.
 

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I thought most of those guys were raised in single mother homes?

No offense to them, but a whipping from a woman doesnt mean shyt.

I would look my mother in the eyes and almost laugh at her weak ass.

My father stayed in the gym though, and I had to wear 3 pairs of jeans in anticipation of my beat-downs.

:laff::laff::laff:Sorry for your pain breh but :russ::mjlol:
 

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My dad was a big dude like 6'3 220+ and would always give the impression like he was about to beat us even go to far as reach for his belt around his waist :russ:

Never hit us once but it was a good enough deterrent, he probably just wasn't built for it.


Mom's however :whew: like an assassin. Always was there at the right moment to catch us fukking up. I'd think the coast was clear and she just appear behind me whipping my ass :martin:


It worked so I can't complain but don't think I'd go that route with my kid.
 

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In before MY PARENTS (cutesy term for hitting because no one says "I hit my kids") ME AND I TURNED OUT FINE
 

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Parents have to parent their kids out of cages and in this society, there isnt much options for parents to get that message across to their kids. And the kids obviously dont know this. You have predatory adults literally preying on kids. Politicians calling kids "superpredators", diagnosing them with adhd, giving them sugar and junk food, miseducating them, programming them to be whatever and then yall believing these articles on cnn telling folks not to raise their kids or to not discipline so they can lose custody and have their kids raised by the system. The point of the belt is to deter you from doing something your mom told you NOT to do. Thats why we got hit. You fukked up somewhere and you got whooped to NOT do it again. You KNEW why you got hit and believe me, we were told what we did wrong and the whooping got the message across. Lol. I dont think any good parent wants to hurt their child but the point of punishment is to deter. Those asswhoopings stop my unruly ass from wilding out as a kid. By the time i got older, my mom pretty much instilled that fear in me and that message because obviously, that shyt makes you a law abiding citizen because you know that the system goes after folks that never had that intervention at home. No criminal record here. Juvenile or adult.

For a lot of folks who end up in the system, it starts when they are children or usually in school. Tracking students and pushing them to the school prison pipeline. shyt is real out here.

Now with abuse, its different. Youre getting hit for no reason or just because someone wants to brutalize you.

In these societies that we live in, theyre not giving any hope to the kids.Theyre too busy corrupting them.
 
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Its all on the child. They either grow out of doing dumb shyt or they dont. I got my fair share of whooping but I was still acting like a dikk face. As a got older I subconsciously changed that shyt. Im a good damn man

 

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If parents beat their kids for the same silly reasons as slave masters, then they don't need to have any children..

Besides, the window of opportunity for effective spankings is so small.. If the kid isn't on the right track by 8 years old, then it's going to be a hard battle..

I agree....you got to make your kids have a conscience, as well. Make them feel emotional pain when they steal/harm innocent people and even animals. Although you got to teach your children lessons of humility, you got to talk to them and respect them as human beings.
 
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If they don't take heed, then one must take hide

:ufdup:

We didn't get beat, we got our hides tanned. My uncle told me that it's easier to bounce back from an ass whooping than when the world whoops your ass.

I tell my kids the same. You can either get the paperwork that benefits you or the kind that tarnishes you for life.

:ufdup:
 
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