Spike Lee goes in about Gentrification in Brooklyn

[jilla82]

The crack era fukked up Black America's chances of accruing generational weath....honestly I think that was the main reason the "drug war" was allowed to happen.

You think these big wigs running the shows of these cities had plan to change it overnight? No...that shyt takes DECADES of planning.

black neighborhoods were fukked up before crack.
The crack era is over hyped.

Cover of Jet in 1973

Yall make black folks sound like babies always blaming someone else for our problems.

 

[Piff Huxtable]

be 70% liberal but still have republican mayors for two decades straight

New York is fukking soft

 

[ManBearPig]

black neighborhoods were fukked up before crack.
The crack era is over hyped.

Cover of Jet in 1973

Yall make black folks sound like babies always blaming someone else for our problems.

basically

 

[MF_BREW]

 

[Ego Noir]

Gentrification takes place because Black people are not concentrated, too scattered around thus allowing outsiders to penetrate Black areas.

Where do you get this from? NYC has over 2.2 million black people, the majority concentrated in eastern Brooklyn, and Southern/Eastern queens.and if you know NYC those areas border each other.

Black areas are very concentrated in New York.

 

[Ego Noir]

High ownership will make it much harder in places like Crown Heights and Harlem.

You mustve left ny a few years ago

Crown Heights is gone.

West of Nostrand is cac central. West of Kingston the prices are higher than 'prime' (hipster) Bedstuy. The only areas that remain are the ones around the pjs and you get closer to brownsville.

All them buildings around Empire, the landlords have upped their prices and requirements. They want a 700 credit score. So the cacs are moving in, its spotty for now, but its changing.

 

[Poitier]

You mustve left ny a few years ago

Crown Heights is gone.

West of Nostrand is cac central. West of Kingston the prices are higher than 'prime' (hipster) Bedstuy. The only areas that remain are the ones around the pjs and you get closer to brownsville.

All them buildings around Empire, the landlords have upped their prices and requirements. They want a 700 credit score. So the cacs are moving in, its spotty for now, but its changing.

Damn that sucks, Crown Heights has houses and Black people were in all of them last time I was out there. Crazy.

 

[Ego Noir]

Damn that sucks, Crown Heights has houses and Black people were in all of them last time I was out there. Crazy.

Other than the mid-sized-big apartment buildings black ownership wasnt really a problem in Fort Greene/Clinton Hill/Bedstuy. Cause once the demand went up and those all-cash offers started rolling in they sold off. and I notice its still happening in the deeper parts of bedstuy.

 

[Spatial Paradox]

A lot of oversimplifying going on in this thread

 

[606onit]

Tomo news on da beat

 

[Piff Perkins]

Spike kind of answered his question later. The people cannot pay the taxes. When the taxes are paid, services are easier to maintain: police patrol, garbage is picked up, etc. That's how shyt works...now. The problem with gentrification is that the seeds were sown back when paying taxes wasn't the determining factor for services. It was cheaper to live in NY in the 70s, 80s, 90s...but that's when services began to be interrupted. Spike grew up in that era, he remembers how dirty NY used to be.

The plan is simple. You start with redlining: charging more for services, denying jobs, etc. You gather a group into a specific place. You drive the property value down by decreasing services and watching crime increase. And then...you turn the faucet back on and start attracting young white professionals, college students, etc. Hell even those white people are gonna get fukked, because the property value will quickly drown all those hipsters and "artists" out and then middle class families will buy their property.

I haven't followed DeBlasio news since the election but I also remember him talking about the creation of affordable housing. Does that mean...apartments and another wave of housing projects, or will it result in actual houses, condos, etc? We'll see.

 

[Ego Noir]

Spike kind of answered his question later. The people cannot pay the taxes. When the taxes are paid, services are easier to maintain: police patrol, garbage is picked up, etc. That's how shyt works...now. The problem with gentrification is that the seeds were sown back when paying taxes wasn't the determining factor for services. It was cheaper to live in NY in the 70s, 80s, 90s...but that's when services began to be interrupted. Spike grew up in that era, he remembers how dirty NY used to be.

The plan is simple. You start with redlining: charging more for services, denying jobs, etc. You gather a group into a specific place. You drive the property value down by decreasing services and watching crime increase. And then...you turn the faucet back on and start attracting young white professionals, college students, etc. Hell even those white people are gonna get fukked, because the property value will quickly drown all those hipsters and "artists" out and then middle class families will buy their property.

I haven't followed DeBlasio news since the election but I also remember him talking about the creation of affordable housing. Does that mean...apartments and another wave of housing projects, or will it result in actual houses, condos, etc? We'll see.

Its bullshyt.

Thats a developers way of weaseling his way into a community with smokescreen promises.

An orthodox way of doing this is introducing an 80/20. That means 80% is market rate (in NY gentrification that means charging 2k for a studio by the pjs), and 20% is affordable housing.

Other than probably the 10 families that win the housing lottery, it does not help a neighborhood, what is starts is a domino effect, of local landlords rasing their own rents to "market rate" piggybacking off the new development, then the first wave of cacs move in. then they bring their friends, demand goes up, jews buy all the property then you have what weve seen happen in all of North Brooklyn.

 

[606onit]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/1...ighborhood-unless-doing-something-productive/

NYPD: Black Teens Must Stay Out Of Predominantly White Neighborhood Unless Doing Something Productive
AUTHOR: JAMESON PARKER OCTOBER 1, 2014 1:14 PM

The New York Police Department reportedly told a group of black teenagers that they were not welcome to walk through a predominately white neighborhood unless they could prove that they were being productive members of society.

According to one witness, a group of five or six 16 year olds was ordered to leave the area of Park Slope immediately because the officer assumed they were up to no good. His evidence? They were walking down the sidewalk and not apparently heading to the basketball court. No crime had been witnessed, no report called in. Just kids walking in the “wrong place.”

As DNAinfo reports, a resident named Sara Bennett watched the incident unfold with growing confusion and then anger. According to her testimony at a community meeting, the officer trailed the kids in his squad car before getting on his megaphone and shouting at them to “get out of the neighborhood.”

“I was really really upset and disturbed, not by the kids, but by the way the police were yelling at them to get out of the neighborhood,” Bennett told police at the meeting.

During the meeting, Commanding Officer Captain Frank DiGiacomo defended his officer’s actions, despite admitting he had no knowledge of the incident and didn’t know a single detail about it.


He cited the fact that areas around the city had been experiencing increased crime rates and his officer was probably trying to be preventative. Like with the controversial “stop-and-frisk” laws, DiGiacomo apparently believes that black teens are a demographic almost entirely of would-be criminals and his officers are therefore justified in harassing them with no cause. For him, being “preventative” means hassling black kids, even if there is no evidence that they’ve done anything wrong.

Digging the hole just a little deeper, DiGiacomo went on to explain the rational of hustling these kids out of the neighborhood.

“Most of the crimes that happen in our command are from outside people committing the crimes,” DiGiacuomo said, according to DNAinfo. “If [teens] are not playing basketball, you’re not playing soccer, you’re not doing something productive in the neighborhood, I can see [officers] moving them.”

And how did DiGiacomo know that these kids were from “outside” the area? Because Park Slope is predominately white, of course! According to demographics website City-Data.com, Park Slope is nearly two-thirds white, and a little over 10 percent African American. The officer, not bothering to talk to these kids, assumed that they were outsiders because they didn’t “look” like residents of Park Slope and then further assumed that they were up to no good.

It’s impossible to imagine that cops would behave the same way with a group of white kids. If a police department had a policy that said white kids weren’t allowed to walk down certain streets unless they could prove they weren’t about to rob someone, Fox News would be falling over itself to scream “reverse racism.” The fact that a police captain is so open about this blatantly discriminatory policy should demonstrate just how pervasive the double standards run throughout the NYPD.

The NYPD has come under serious scrutiny in the past few years over many of its policies which reek of racial profiling. The department has continued to promise to enact changes that will address these concerns, but it seems that they just can’t help themselves.

For now, black kids have to assume that even walking down the street will be an invitation for police harassment. That’s a shame. Growing up is hard enough without having to navigate the treacherous waters of racial discrimination at the hands of the law.

Help us get the word out!​

 

[Rekkapryde]

NYPD: Black Teens Must Stay Out Of Predominantly White Neighborhood Unless Doing Something Productive | Addicting Info | The Knowledge You Crave

Wow

What kind of illegal shyt is this?

But the South huh....