Spin: Introduction to Socialism

[JahFocus CS]

Youre probably using a computer or android device to post this hyperbole ...Did Microsoft,Google or Apple ever put a gun to your head and say buy this or else??

Nope..they manufactured something you and 4 billion other people found useful ..you bought it and helped make them the richest companies in the world.

We're talking about the violent historical roots of the current socioeconomic order and the violent apparatuses that continue to sustain and protect it, you clown.

Chinese workers were committing suicide at Foxconn factories a few years ago because of what they were being subjected to.

 

[Pitfalls0117]

Youre probably using a computer or android device to post this hyperbole ...Did Microsoft,Google or Apple ever put a gun to your head and say buy this or else??

Nope..they manufactured something you and 4 billion other people found useful ..you bought it and helped make them the richest companies in the world.

Such a horrible shytpost

Apple quite famously treats its Chinese laborers like garbage and imposes undeniably violent conditions on them:
Dying for an iPhone: the lives of Chinese workers | China Dialogue

And @JahFocus CS already addressed your weak ass "oh you buy things so you can't say shyt" rebuttal earlier in this thread if you had bothered to read anything before posting.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

We're talking about the violent historical roots of the current socioeconomic order and the violent apparatuses that continue to sustain and protect it, you clown.

Chinese workers were committing suicide at Foxconn factories a few years ago because of what they were being subjected to.

Amazing how magically you have absolved the Socialist Chinese peoples republic of all responsibility for creating those conditions.....i love the intellectual rigor you approach this topic with.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Such a horrible shytpost

Apple quite famously treats its Chinese laborers like garbage and imposes undeniably violent conditions on them:
Dying for an iPhone: the lives of Chinese workers | China Dialogue

And @JahFocus CS already addressed your weak ass "oh you buy things so you can't say shyt" rebuttal earlier in this thread if you had bothered to read anything before posting.

And that according to you is an intelligent reply...a deflection,an ad hominem and a red herring

Like i said above the working conditions in those factories have more to do with the Chinese States repression of freedom across the board than they have to do with capitalism

Second please dont embarrass yourself like this...anyone with two working brain-cells can appreciate that Apple being a multinational conglomerate will operate under different rules here and in the SOCIALIST peoples republic of China..so i will ask you again

when you went to the apple store did they put a gun to your head...yes or no?...if the answer is no your post above is manure..people can accumulate capital with no violence



i notice you aint mention google,Microsoft,yahoo or any others...you just went for the hail mary deflection with Apple in China....thats how you know your argument is weak...you gotta reach for incredulous examples

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

And @JahFocus CS already addressed your weak ass "oh you buy things so you can't say shyt" rebuttal earlier in this thread if you had bothered to read anything before posting

Where is this rebuttal????...I certainly didnt advance such an argument ...i asked ONE question about the price paradox in socialist economies and so far nobody has addressed that.

 

[Madvillain]

Amazing how magically you have absolved the Socialist Chinese peoples republic of all responsibility for creating those conditions.....i love the intellectual rigor you approach this topic with.

The US is a post-racial democracy with free, fair and open elections too

 

[JahFocus CS]

@Aelyas en passant stop coming in here muddying up the thread. You already stated you wouldn't even read through the thread a few posts ago so just stop posting please.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

The US is a post-racial democracy with free, fair and open elections too

Nope its a constitutional REPUBLIC ..big difference there buddy

A Republic which recognizes corporations as people and as such elections will never truly be fair when some "people" are present in several locations,never die and have extremely deep pockets

still better than socialism tho

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

@Aelyas en passant stop coming in here muddying up the thread. You already stated you wouldn't even read through the thread a few posts ago so just stop posting please.

The purpose of this thread is to provide foundational information for those interested in learning about, discussing, and even critiquing socialist ideas

I asked one simple question..instead of trying to answer people get snarky and respond to things i never said...


since nobody wants to actually strain some brain cells and yall wanna propagandize each other in your echo chamber socialist support group

 

[JahFocus CS]

@Aelyas en passant "Foundational" doesn't mean anything when you admittedly refuse to read the preceding pages! If you read through the thread and still had questions or points, that's a different matter.

 

[DEAD7]

still better than socialism tho

 

[DEAD7]

i notice you aint mention google,Microsoft,yahoo or any others...you just went for the hail mary deflection with Apple in China....thats how you know your argument is weak...you gotta reach for incredulous examples

You will tire of fighting this fight with them @Aelyas en passant
They dont little little thing like facts get in the way of their appeals to emotion

 

[JahFocus CS]

You will tire of fighting this fight with them @Aelyas en passant
They dont little little thing like facts get in the way of their appeals to emotion

Another one who hasn't read the thread... where do you see appeals to emotion featuring prominently in the links in the op?

 

[Madvillain]

Nope its a constitutional REPUBLIC ..big difference there buddy

A Republic which recognizes corporations as people and as such elections will never truly be fair when some "people" are present in several locations,never die and have extremely deep pockets

still better than socialism tho

What it actually is vs. what it wants us to go with
I don't disagree, but let's not pick and choose who to do this with, either

 

[Pitfalls0117]

And that according to you is an intelligent reply...a deflection,an ad hominem and a red herring

Like i said above the working conditions in those factories have more to do with the Chinese States repression of freedom across the board than they have to do with capitalism

Second please dont embarrass yourself like this...anyone with two working brain-cells can appreciate that Apple being a multinational conglomerate will operate under different rules here and in the SOCIALIST peoples republic of China..so i will ask you again

when you went to the apple store did they put a gun to your head...yes or no?...if the answer is no your post above is manure..people can accumulate capital with no violence



i notice you aint mention google,Microsoft,yahoo or any others...you just went for the hail mary deflection with Apple in China....thats how you know your argument is weak...you gotta reach for incredulous examples

From Mine to Mobile Phone: The Conflict Minerals Supply Chain | Enough Project

The global tech industry relies on exploited labor from all around the world, not just China (which has been happily capitalist since Deng, mind you).

Though if not for the assassination of a REAL socialist, the people of the DRC might not find themselves today slaving away for tech companies whose products they will never see in their lifetimes.