SPIN: What are some harsh music realities you've had to accept?
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shawntitan
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Jay Elec is never dropping.
We’re never gonna get the Nas/AZ album
The rise of music on the internet killed regional hip hop sound.
Joell Ortiz/Saigon are never going to live up to their potential.
We’re never gonna get the Nas/AZ album
The rise of music on the internet killed regional hip hop sound.
Joell Ortiz/Saigon are never going to live up to their potential.
Jay-Z killed prime Prodigy
Prodigy killed himself. Jay struck when P skills severely diminished. Prime Prodigy woulda Dropped a Gem on the camel.
:pdahellclean:Jay-Z killed prime Prodigy
Prime Prodigy was 94-99.
Jay dissed Prodigy when they were most likely recording Infamy. :PPicard:
Jay didn’t call out P by name in the 90s. He heeded the Apostles Warning and kept it to “where you and your mans hung in every verse in your rhyme” :Pgtfoh:
Speaking of P, one of the harsh realities I've accepted is that his fall-off is greatly exeggerated because of his performances on the Mobb albums post-Murda Muzik.
If you listen to his solo albums it's clear that his energy went into those, and if you read the book it's clear him and Hav simply weren't that close anymore after MM.
Not saying he DIDN'T fall off, but his solo albums are mostly piff for a veteran - unfortunately they'll go unnoticed and the Jay-Z thing didn't help, of course.
If you listen to his solo albums it's clear that his energy went into those, and if you read the book it's clear him and Hav simply weren't that close anymore after MM.
Not saying he DIDN'T fall off, but his solo albums are mostly piff for a veteran - unfortunately they'll go unnoticed and the Jay-Z thing didn't help, of course.
Skills and being dope dont matter to most rap fans....and I'm not sure if they ever will again.
Lupe wont be seen as one of the goats until he's gone.
No more Outkast albums.
I may be getting too old for rap because 90 percent of new shyt is trash to me.
We didn't protect the culture from vultures (black and white) and corporations....and now it's a shell of itself.
There are no more PEs or early Ice Cubes pushing back aggressively against the system. If they are people wont support it.
No Nas/AZ album.
As much as I love rap, it does glorify and promote some horrible shyt.
Lupe wont be seen as one of the goats until he's gone.
No more Outkast albums.
I may be getting too old for rap because 90 percent of new shyt is trash to me.
We didn't protect the culture from vultures (black and white) and corporations....and now it's a shell of itself.
There are no more PEs or early Ice Cubes pushing back aggressively against the system. If they are people wont support it.
No Nas/AZ album.
As much as I love rap, it does glorify and promote some horrible shyt.
Let's be honest , bro...the main reason P solo work was dope was because of Alchemist. His raps fell off badly. EVERY last single one of his solo joints would have been universally accepted classics if he was rhyming the way he did 94-99. EVERY LAST ONE. A prime P solo over Alchemist beats would have been
X 10. Not saying that he still didn't have his moments post '99 but if you consider how fukking brilliant he was in his prime you got to say he fell off bad.No slander...Rest In Paradise to the God.
Exactly. P had the worst fall off of any great rapper. But him falling off really made us all appreciate just how truly amazing he was on the mic in his prime.Let's be honest , bro...the main reason P solo work was dope was because of Alchemist. His raps fell off badly. EVERY last single one of his solo joints would have been universally accepted classics if he was rhyming the way he did 94-99. EVERY LAST ONE. A prime P solo over Alchemist beats would have been
No slander...Rest In Paradise to the God.
ogc163
Superstar
Poor Black men will continue to be ostracized in hip-hop, and the few that remain will be spitting primarily aspirational raps. Sincere and in depth introspective records from a poor man's perspective will not be mainstream ever again.
And that misguided middle class Intersectionality blipsters will continue their influence on hip-hop, further entrenching themselves as the faces of Black folks in media.
And that misguided middle class Intersectionality blipsters will continue their influence on hip-hop, further entrenching themselves as the faces of Black folks in media.
daboywonder2002
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That MOST of the younger generation. Mostly that 16 and under crowd don't wanna hear 80s and 90s hip hop. As much as I try to put them on, they are stuck in their ways.
Yup. I feel a very similar way. Even much of 90s the shyt I grew up on is trash af to me now. My musical palette has grown away from hip-hop. I don't dismiss the entire genre, but it takes A LOT for a rap album to even move me. All the critically acclaimed hip-hop projects that came out this year did nothing for me, except Phonte's jawn.
Nowadays most fools skim through music rather than listen to it
Yup, and it's not just nowadays. Most people, in general, care about image WAY more than music. This is why I'm always tryna put people onto new fire R&B/Soul music, but ignorant mfs keep sleeping
^^^Proving my point, entirely
I wish @brownsugah hadn't gotten herself bushed. She was one of the few Coli members with actual R&B taste.
You probably can't tell a major chord from a minor, or a triad from a 7th, but somehow act as some authority on R&B. Goddamn, I hate non-musical people who try to speak on real music.
The music some of them listen to now is so drastically different than the music from the 80s and 90s that they just can't relate. It's like it's a totally different form of music. It's a much larger transition in sound than it was between the 80s and 90s sound. But that's just SOME of the contemporary music. You can still find contemporary Hip Hop music and artists that are akin to the music and artists of the 80s and 90s and the fans of that sound usually have no issue listening to older Hip Hop music.