Spurs' Becky Hammon interviewing for Blazers and Magic openings

Would you hire Becky for your NBA franchise?


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I don't think it's about X's and O's at all.
Female drill sargeants and lieutenants, etc. don't just have more influence over they people they supervise, they also get paid more.

The power dynamic is very different in pro sports, especially basketball where players can have more leverage than the coaches sometimes.

If you ever had a female drill sergeant though no one respected them. New male recruits could run laps around most of them so it's hard to look up to them. The rank and the badge is what got them respect.
 
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How is she similar to Steve Nash at all?? She’s been an assistant coach for years, under possibly the GOAT coach at that.
He's complained outside of Nash about the lack of black coaches, black coaches only getting jobs on non-playoff/rebuilding teams, and players not advocating for black assistants to get jobs. I doubt ESPN is going to let him have that same energy on tv if she were to get the Blazers job.
 
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The WNBA and women’s hoops college and below is full of male HC’s, not sure how y’all have issues with the reverse, especially given she actually played professionally. Furthermore, NBA players are professionals, not man children like HS and college, if there is any level where I think the men are mature enough to have a female coach, it’s the NBA
It’s really just people feeling like a white woman is a shorter route than black men. And that’s really it. The NBA is a league disproportionately of black men with an audience that is skewed towards black and Latino men. They feel like you fix the lack of black men representation before you go make this move. That’s really what it comes down to, and then some sexism mixed in. I’m not going to lie and say that I don’t think that she’ll get kid gloves from the media that brothers don’t seem to get. All those jobs that she is up for are major rebuilding projects and we know how that goes. Black guys get trash teams and put in some sort of infrastructure and then get fired for a white guy. And no one feels like that will happen to her. It’s like how white woman are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action.

For me personally? I don’t give two fukks but I also don’t see why it matters. Like black people don’t play hockey like that - I wouldn’t expect there to be a black hockey manager and wouldn’t consider it some big thing if there was. I’d just be like more power to that brother and keep it pushing. Maybe I just have fatigue over all the “first” such and such shyt.
 

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Becky would drop 50 on you lol





I kinda feel the opposite of everyone ITT in terms of what kinda job the first woman should get. I feel like a team that's in a rebuild with alot of younger guys is less likely to be receptive and more likely to be an issue. A team with veterans and stability is more likely to just go to work, be mature and not concentrate on the fact the coach is a woman
 

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Becky would drop 50 on you lol





I kinda feel the opposite of everyone ITT in terms of what kinda job the first woman should get. I feel like a team that's in a rebuild with alot of younger guys is less likely to be receptive and more likely to be an issue. A team with veterans and stability is more likely to just go to work, be mature and not concentrate on the fact the coach is a woman

Becky old ass ain't dropping shyt on me. Me and my hs team beat a d1 women's basketball team a decade ago. Ever since then, my eyes have opened on the sports debate between genders.
 

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It’s really just people feeling like a white woman is a shorter route than black men. And that’s really it. The NBA is a league disproportionately of black men with an audience that is skewed towards black and Latino men. They feel like you fix the lack of black men representation before you go make this move. That’s really what it comes down to, and then some sexism mixed in. I’m not going to lie and say that I don’t think that she’ll get kid gloves from the media that brothers don’t seem to get. All those jobs that she is up for are major rebuilding projects and we know how that goes. Black guys get trash teams and put in some sort of infrastructure and then get fired for a white guy. And no one feels like that will happen to her. It’s like how white woman are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action.

For me personally? I don’t give two fukks but I also don’t see why it matters. Like black people don’t play hockey like that - I wouldn’t expect there to be a black hockey manager and wouldn’t consider it some big thing if there was. I’d just be like more power to that brother and keep it pushing. Maybe I just have fatigue over all the “first” such and such shyt.
There will always be non black men getting coaching jobs, that’s a strawman. Does it matter if it’s a white woman or white man taking a coaching spot? No, it’s still a spot that’s not going to a black man. And “fixing” the black coach problem doesn’t come with all 30 teams being coached by black men, so again, if half the league isn’t coached by black men, it doesn’t matter that one of those other 15 is a woman. Lastly, the chick is interviewing, there is no big outside push to make this happen on a “first”, it will be a first if she’s hired, but I’m not seeing where they’re trying to make this happen. She’ll likely get passed over as many assistants do.
 

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Becky would drop 50 on you lol





I kinda feel the opposite of everyone ITT in terms of what kinda job the first woman should get. I feel like a team that's in a rebuild with alot of younger guys is less likely to be receptive and more likely to be an issue. A team with veterans and stability is more likely to just go to work, be mature and not concentrate on the fact the coach is a woman

None of the players are going to have a problem with her getting hired. If she can't coach or manage a locker then there will be an issue like any other coach.

People talking about teams will be afraid to fire her. If she ends up in Orlando or another team with bad ownership/front office she'll be out the door in a few seasons if they don't compete. Y'all acting like she'll be winning 20 games for 5 years and still have a job.
 

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There will always be non black men getting coaching jobs, that’s a strawman. Does it matter if it’s a white woman or white man taking a coaching spot? No, it’s still a spot that’s not going to a black man. And “fixing” the black coach problem doesn’t come with all 30 teams being coached by black men, so again, if half the league isn’t coached by black men, it doesn’t matter that one of those other 15 is a woman. Lastly, the chick is interviewing, there is no big outside push to make this happen on a “first”, it will be a first if she’s hired, but I’m not seeing where they’re trying to make this happen. She’ll likely get passed over as many assistants do.
That’s literally not the definition of a straw man. I don’t even know why you said that aside from being convinced that everyone who doesn’t like the idea of the push she’s gotten is sexist. And that’s really all your post is about under all that, which is unfortunate. I simply said that I can see why people feel a way. Her face is literally being used to promote clicks on every article on coaching searches and is the first image shown on every network when people talk about coaching vacancies. Seriously, what are you talking about? I know more people who found out her name in the last 3 days than the last 7 years. Also, you created a bunch of arbitrary barometers. Like literally nothing you said here can or should be drawn from anything I said. First off, fixing the issue with black men not getting these jobs isn’t gender specific and no one said it was so again - what are you talking about? No one said all 30 teams in here should be coached by black men, people have been talking about the number dropping from 15 to 7. So again, what are you talking about? Again, if she’s qualified so be it - but don’t treat people like they’re stupid. I’m now annoyed that you actually made me have to defend shyt I never said. I’m literally part of the minority who voted that I would hire her :deadrose:
 

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I’d really like to hear what these interviews for coaches and recruitment pitches for players are really like. It’s no way someone can tell me that some of these dudes interview bad every time they look for a head coaching job. But other coaches soon as they hit the market are scooped up ASAP.

teams like the pelicans hiring van Grundy, Celtics have an opening, pacers, maybe bucks, twolves?, magic open, Portland, and the kings and wizards should be opening but they aren’t. So if another offseason goes by and guys like cassell, udoka, billups dont End up with front office jobs I will be surprised. I know all don’t want to be coaches but some of these teams need to reset at GM/Team President also.
It’s just like the NFL. You bring in some people for token interviews and then hire the other person you wanted all along. Hammond been interviewing for years like I said earlier. It gives the NBA some nice headlines that can be retweeted and then she doesn’t get hired. Eventually she will get a job, and she DESERVES a job, but probably not this upcoming season.

Billups is super smart. But from a team perspective not every great floor general makes a great coach (see: Magic, Kidd). I don’t think Nash is a good coach either btw but you know what that is. I’d imagine teams bullshyt Billups all the time yet gave Nash the keys without blinking.

When Hammond eventually gets a job she should be saluted for earning it. Anyone who claims she got a job a black man should have gotten is an idiotic. It’s like Asian people being mad that black people get into Harvard for alleged preferential treatment…meanwhile ignoring the fact that most preferential treatment spots go to the white children of donors and alumni. Or a middle class person being mad at a poor person when the rich are to blame. She’s not the problem.
 

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how you figure?

I dont think a woman can properly manage conflict with or between men. I dont think they can deal with all the testosterone driven tension in a locker room. I think most womens first reaction to managing men is to try and "out man" men which isnt a good or sustainable strategy.

I saw someone mention the military and how the military has Female Officers but as @concise put it, Officers get paid more and are considered more "prestigious" than those under their command, so they have the backing of the institution when conflict happens.

But even with the military, you almost NEVER see Women leading combat arms organizations (i.e boots on the ground combat). I think its the same principle of Women cant manage those types of macho organizations (at least until you get a generation of seasoned women in combat arms).
 

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More a numbers issues - there are tens of thousands of high schools in America and they don't have the entire country to recruit coaches from, so by sheer chance a woman is more likely to end up heading them.

Even back in the 1990s when I was in high school there were women coaching some of the JV teams in our league just cause no one else wanted to. It's not like it's ever an issue. Guys posturing like Neanderthals talk like there ain't female drill sergeants and corrections officers all over the country but basketball X's and O's are just too manly for a woman to understand.


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