Stan Van Gundy says Lebron James is already better than Michael Jordan

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i get it :gladbron:

because saying sht like "they both impact the game differently" is a better indicator of a players defensive efficiency than how many BLOCKS AND STEALS they record

you should write to the league office and tell them to stop recording blocks and steals per game as they are in no way shape or form criteria by which a players defensive abilities should be measured :heh:

durant is averaging more points per game than lebron but should he win the scoring title? i dont think so because they both impact the game differently on the offensive end.

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: at all of this. especially the bolded.

how the fukk are you equating A SCORING TITLE which is all about points , (which is statistically factual) to defense which isn't just about blocks and steals.

you came up with some of the worst arguments possible for jordan being the better defender

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i can't believe folk still hold onto the notion that steals/blocks are the end-all be-all in measuring defense.
 

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:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: at all of this. especially the bolded.

how the fukk are you equating A SCORING TITLE which is all about points , (which is statistically factual) to defense which isn't just about blocks and steals.

you came up with some of the worst arguments possible for jordan being the better defender

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that was sarcasm my lad,

that statement was purposely as absurd as arguing against using blocks and steals as a measure of a players defensive prowess :obama:
 

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i can't believe folk still hold onto the notion that steals/blocks are the end-all be-all in measuring defense.


this is like your 5th straight post and you've yet to post a legitimate counter argument

its like a girl is posting under your screenname, all you're doing is whining about other peoples posts

the best you have is "tHeY BoTh ImPaCt ThE GaMe Differently"

i mean really, what is there to argue after posting something that meaningless... you're basically saying you can't argue for or against either one because "they both impact the game differently"

go to sleep
 
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that was sarcasm my lad,

that statement was purposely as absurd as arguing against using blocks and steals as a measure of a players defensive prowess :obama:

:russ: at this stupidity.

blocks and steals do factor in on defense, but they aren't the be all end all. and using blocks and steals to show why mj is a better defender than lebron is wrong. not because he isn't but because, lebron has a different impact on defense, that isn't always measured on blocks and steals.
 

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if MJ ran a 4.3 40 then bron's gotta run a 4.1 flat. no way MJ beating bron baseline to baseline.
 
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this is like your 5th straight post and you've yet to post a legitimate counter argument

its like a girl is posting under your screenname, all you're doing is whining about other peoples posts

the best you have is "tHeY BoTh ImPaCt ThE GaMe Differently"

i mean really, what is there to argue after posting something that meaningless... you're basically saying you can't argue for or against either one because "they both impact the game differently"

go to sleep
there's no counter argument to your garbage statements. you ran in here saying mj has more steals and blocks than leborn in a certain timeframe... therefore he's the better defender// like that is a clear picture of their defensive capabilities. not to mention that stupid finals argument you posted earlier.

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:russ: at this stupidity.

blocks and steals do factor in on defense, but they aren't the be all end all. and using blocks and steals to show why mj is a better defender than lebron is wrong. not because he isn't but because, lebron has a different impact on defense, that isn't always measured on blocks and steals.


whats this, post #6 where this brain dead mutant fails to elaborate on his bullshyt "DiFfErEnT ImPaCt" post? you dismiss blocks and steals entirely yet provide nothing to counter. how old are you, 12?

theres nothing behind your idiotic posts you retard. fukkoff
 

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there's no counter argument to your garbage statements. you ran in here saying mj has more steals and blocks than leborn in a certain timeframe... therefore he's the better defender// like that is a clear picture of their defensive capabilities. not to mention that stupid finals argument you posted earlier.

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translation: i will quote you and tell you your argument sucks but the 13 braincells in my skull cannot create an argument to counter what you've said, i can only complain and regurgitate the same post over and over like a brain dead idiot

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:russ: at this stupidity.

blocks and steals do factor in on defense, but they aren't the be all end all. and using blocks and steals to show why mj is a better defender than lebron is wrong. not because he isn't but because, lebron has a different impact on defense, that isn't always measured on blocks and steals.

Josh Smith should be the best defender in the NBA if it was all about stats.
 

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Josh Smith should be the best defender in the NBA if it was all about stats.

oh im sorry, what does the defensive player of the year win his title based on?

random esoteric claims right? steals and blocks are in no way shape or form included in naming the defensive player of the year

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and wilt is better than jordan :heh:
 

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oh im sorry, what does the defensive player of the year win his title based on?

random esoteric claims right? steals and blocks are in no way shape or form included in naming the defensive player of the year

:heh:

and wilt is better than jordan :heh:

Like Kobe being 1st team All defense while looking :flabbynsick: on defense the last couple of years. The media likes Jordan so awards he gets from their votes means nothing to me. Tony Allen defensive stats aren't special but most will say he is one of the best defenders in the NBA.

How is MJ better or even close to Wilt?
 
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whats this, post #6 where this brain dead mutant fails to elaborate on his bullshyt "DiFfErEnT ImPaCt" post? you dismiss blocks and steals entirely yet provide nothing to counter. how old are you, 12?

theres nothing behind your idiotic posts you retard. fukkoff

Where did i dismiss them entirely.... stop jumping to conclusions i never set.

help defense, guarding different positions, forcing opponents into defenders, forcing defenders into difficult shots, closing down lanes etc etc.

like i said steals/blocks aren't going to weigh up lebron's defensive value. and shouldn't be used as the ultimate factor in saying why mj is a better defender. for eg. - the celtics series last year - lebron only averaged 1 steal and 1 block per game,,, yet his defensive impact was 10000000x of that. shyt is getting tiring around here when folk put up these basic ass arguments...
 
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