Stan Van Gundy says Lebron James is already better than Michael Jordan

[McPiff]

27ppg, 8 reb, 4 assist
29ppg, 5 reb, 6 assist
32ppg, 7 reb, 6 assist

The better questions is, do those numbers look like MJ was the REASON the Bulls got beat by the Pistons?

And I noticed how you added "in late game situations" after getting owned about MJ just being a great solo act that didn't trust his teammates. To get a feel for what kinda teammates MJ had to trust before he started winning...MJ led the team in 4 statistics his rookie year! It's ok to admit that highlights of MJ doing work on offense has you confused about how great of an all around player he was as soon as he stepped foot outta Chapel Hill.

yeah i added it because that was were i'm getting at. Did i ever say that MJ was the only reason the bulls kept getting beat up by the bad boys??
breh i'm not trying to say that MJ wasnt a great all around player player. i consider him the 2nd GOAT (after magic).

But the stats you posted doesnt discard what i said about him not trusting his teamates though.
Basket ball is more than statistics breh.

 

[Champ_KW]

yeah i added it because that was were i'm getting at. Did i ever say that MJ was the only reason the bulls kept getting beat up by the bad boys??
breh i'm not trying to say that MJ wasnt a great all around player player. i consider him the 2nd GOAT (after magic).

But the stats you posted doesnt discard what i said about him not trusting his teamates though.
Basket ball is more than statistics breh.

Since its such a huge point in your evaluation of his game.. name a specific game where you left saying MJ need to trust his teammates more in late game situations? I'll wait....otherwise you're just spewing nonsense.

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

Be real, do you actually think Detlef Schrempf and Gary Payton have even the slightest chance in the world of guarding Lebron?

the NBA is about team defense... did Dirk or Jason Terry have any chance of guarding LeBron? we all know how that turned out

 

[KevCo]

The story of his career isnt finished, but im pretty sure 6/6>>>>1/3.....

 

[McPiff]

Since its such a huge point in your evaluation of his game.. name a specific game where you left saying MJ need to trust his teammates more in late game situations? I'll wait....otherwise you're just spewing nonsense.

i can recall several games from the pistons-bulls battle. even meaningless games like the one during the 91-92 reg season against the lakers. he litarally shot his team out the game. Seeing him getting that work from sedale threatt was

i had full boxes of vhs with nba games breh.

And you know the stats doesnt tell it all. remember the last game Lebron played as a cav? he had a triple double but yet he quit on his team.

 

[Oroko Saki]

The story of his career isnt finished, but im pretty sure 6/6>>>>1/3.....

Derek Fisher, Robert Horry?

With one hand I will crush you and throw your soul into eternal darkness. May the hounds of Hell eat your rotting soul

 

[///Vega+++]

I want to slap somebody

 

[sfgiants]

He might be right

Take off your nostalgia glasses and realize jordan isn't an invincible basketball god

6-0 vs 1-2 in the finals


invincible:
Adjective
Too powerful to be defeated or overcome

someone quick- i cant remember but did anyone a) defeat jordan in the finals or b) stop his title defenses.
spoiler alert: no.

on a team with 2 other all stars and against the softest team in the league lebron averaged 17.8 points per game in the game's biggest stage almost 10 full points below his regular season average

 

[Lakerman0834]

Kobe was 21 and inexperienced.....Lebron was 26 and in his prime. Who really lost here?

dudes forget game 4 21 yr old Kobe destroyed the pacers in OT with fouled out

 

[sfgiants]

Jordan's a little better scorer, a more creative scorer but Lebron's bigger, faster, handles the ball better and is a better passer. He also said Lebron is better defensively. Called Lebron indefensible.

jordan vs lebron first 10 seasons defensive stats*:
(jordan missed 64 games his 2nd season and his 10th season are the 17 games he played in 94-95)

lebron seasons with over 200 steals: 0
jordan seasons with over 200 steals: 6

lebron seasons with over 150 steals: 1
jordan seasons with over 150 steals: 8

lebron seasons with over 75 blocks: 3
jordan seasons with over 75 blocks: 4

lebron seasons with over 100 blocks: 0
jordan seasons with over 100 blocks: 2

and @ jordan being just "a little better" scorer.

Jordan's career scoring average: 30.1, career playoff scoring average: 33.4, including a 41ppg scoring average in the nba finals.

lebrons career scoring average thus far: 27.6, playoff average: 28.5, less than 1 pt better in the post season.

lebron is without a doubt better at passing
up a last second shot and giving it to one of his teammates

 

[Champ_KW]

i can recall several games from the pistons-bulls battle. even meaningless games like the one during the 91-92 reg season against the lakers. he litarally shot his team out the game. Seeing him getting that work from sedale threatt was

i had full boxes of vhs with nba games breh.

And you know the stats doesnt tell it all. remember the last game Lebron played as a cav? he had a triple double but yet he quit on his team.

I never said Bron quit in that game. And kudos to you for remembering random November games in the 80's when Mike "shot the Bulls" outta the game. It must have been hard to hold on to that nugget for that off chance you'd have to use it in 2013 to discredit him...anyway....its ok to compare Bron and MJ, but the hyperbole has gotten outta control.

 

[Luke Cage]

so essentially gundy is saying that it took 9 years for lebron to reach a level that MJ reached in his 5th year? and that makes him better than MJ? Lebron is my dude but all these comparisons will cease if he doesn't continue winning us championships. If we don't repeat THIS year half of the people saying this will immedietly renigg most of their comments because a 1 outta 4 record in the finals doesn't impress anybody. And people never remember the regular for anything more than a highlight tape.

 

[god shamgod]

If Others think lebron>>>Mj So be it.People are entitled to think what they want

I watched Young MJ,Prime Mj,Post retirement Mj and wizards Mj and he's the greatest to me but Lebron has the ability to be better only time will tell

 

[McPiff]

I never said Bron quit in that game. And kudos to you for remembering random November games in the 80's when Mike "shot the Bulls" outta the game. It must have been hard to hold on to that nugget for that off chance you'd have to use it in 2013 to discredit him...anyway....its ok to compare Bron and MJ, but the hyperbole has gotten outta control.

you ask for examples and when i give them you say i try to discredit MJ
I'm not even trying to discredit him, he's in my top 5.
But before he started to win it all , this is how he was considered. A lot of people doubted him, like people started to doubt Lebron. Thats the only comparaison i have for these 2.

Yep you never said that bron quit on his team, but i was just pointing out the facts that stats doesnt always tell everything.
He had a dope statline, but he didnt even try to win that game. He had a "fukk it i'm outta here either way" demeanor.

 

[ThugLife]

6-0 vs 1-2 in the finals


invincible:
Adjective
Too powerful to be defeated or overcome

someone quick- i cant remember but did anyone a) defeat jordan in the finals or b) stop his title defenses.
spoiler alert: no.

on a team with 2 other all stars and against the softest team in the league lebron averaged 17.8 points per game in the game's biggest stage almost 10 full points below his regular season average

Jordan couldn't even get to the Finals before he was Bron's age