Start a franchise: RG3 OR Cam

[DSGB]

he aint the passer Big Ben is.Big Ben the best 3rd down passer in the league

Big Ben has a 3 nice WRs and a TE. Cam has old Steve Smith

 

[SHAQAVELLI]

Since nobody did it, I don't think...

Cam Newton first seven games of career:
59.5 completion percentage
2,103 passing yards
266 rushing yards
15 TD, 9 int

RGIII first seven games of career:
70.4 completion percentage
1,601 passing yards
468 rushing yards
13 TD, 3 int.

 

[thelonious21]

Griff is a better runner and a better passer. That doesn't leave much room for Cam in this debate.

Its not even about numbers. Cam put up numbers last year but he never made plays like RG3. Not even close. Skins are 6/6 on 4th downs this year.

Griffin is looking elite becuz that offense can score on every possession and so far has given us a chance to win every game. Cam didn't do that last year...

The O-line, Alfred Morris and Kyle Shanahan all get a lot of credit cuz so far they have all over achieved. But RG3 is the reason for that...

lol.. doggy.. there is NO pass RG3 can make than Cam cant.. the difference is the coaching / talent around them..

 

[#1 pick]

lol.. doggy.. there is NO pass RG3 can make than Cam cant.. the difference is the coaching / talent around them..

Cam can do everything RG3 do and better. RG3 is just faster and more accurate. Both QB's have great velocity. RG3 has a quicker release. Alfred Morris would be good this year with or without RG3. Trent Williams is your best player outside of RG3 and was their best player outside of RG3.

 

[Street Knowledge]

RG3 is more accurate and less turnover prone. The 2 things I value most in QB's

I'm taking him

 

[#1 pick]

RG3 is more accurate and less turnover prone. The 2 things I value most in QB's

I'm taking him

RG3 doesn't take many risks passing like that either. Cam stay looking to hit the home run since he's more accurate with the deep ball. RG3 is a much bigger risk taker running than Cam.

 

[dennis roadman]

so now griff is doing so well because of the coaching? Last 2 years have been nothing but this board going at the shanahans, now they're evil geniuses who turned an Olympic level athlete slash heisman winner into a rookie of the year?

We've all forgotten about the whole coli laughing at the skins o line woes last summer? People were still angry about "doing Portis wrong" and now the qb is shining off of a ragtag offense

Be consistent in your hate, fellas

 

[mastermind]

so now griff is doing so well because of the coaching? Last 2 years have been nothing but this board going at the shanahans, now they're evil geniuses who turned an Olympic level athlete slash heisman winner into a rookie of the year?

We've all forgotten about the whole coli laughing at the skins o line woes last summer? People were still angry about "doing Portis wrong" and now the qb is shining off of a ragtag offense

Be consistent in your hate, fellas

they cant think straight because what they are seeing has never happened before. I dont blame them, its a lot to take in.

Since nobody did it, I don't think...

Cam Newton first seven games of career:
59.5 completion percentage
2,103 passing yards
266 rushing yards
15 TD, 9 int

RGIII first seven games of career:
70.4 completion percentage
1,601 passing yards
468 rushing yards
13 TD, 3 int.

thanks for this

looks like Robert is having the better start brehs.

 

[mvp_status]

This thread is gonna get real interesting when RG3 outplays Cam in two weeks.



Yea, I said it

 

[thelonious21]

look.. what is wrong with ya'l... Shanahan is MAKING SURE RG3 takes minimal risks without out retarding his growth.. and look at Shanny's record.. i mean you goin listen to him before we listen to Rivera..

D-line coach coaching a ROOKIE QB you need a Offensive minded coach.. give Cam any of the Harbaugh's , Shanny, Reid, ANY good coach and cam would be doing better

 

[mastermind]

look.. what is wrong with ya'l... Shanahan is MAKING SURE RG3 takes minimal risks without out retarding his growth.. and look at Shanny's record.. i mean you goin listen to him before we listen to Rivera..

D-line coach coaching a ROOKIE QB you need a Offensive minded coach.. give Cam any of the Harbaugh's , Shanny, Reid, ANY good coach and cam would be doing better

I get it breh. I understand. Its too much for you to get that youhave to take away credit from Robert and give it to the white man. Its cool fam.


This is all a process.

 

[thelonious21]

I get it breh. I understand. Its too much for you to get that youhave to take away credit from Robert and give it to the white man. Its cool fam.


This is all a process.

you DONT get it.. for anyone to say RG3 better than cam.. is a homer..

like doggy.. keep it trill.. RG3's games begin with him dinking and dunking for the first half of the game.. and thats what you SHOULD do.. im not taking anything away from him.. but look he has STRUCTURE around him fam.. if you goin jus ignore that then

 

[Piff Perkins]

I think it's too early to make definitive statements on what either will do, who is a "franchise" QB etc; last year it looked like Cam was the real deal, now it looks like he could have some attitude problems. A lot of the fault lies with management for not giving him the weapons he needs, but he also needs to stop up and command that team. No more sulking. I think it's fair to say most of us are rooting for Cam and RGIII to end a lot of the stereotypes that surround them; just this weekend I heard a commentator say RGIII was playing "street ball" by scrambling and throwing that big third down pass.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Has anybody made the point that RG3 offense is the biggest gimmick in the NFL right now

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

they cant think straight because what they are seeing has never happened before. I dont blame them, its a lot to take in.


thanks for this

looks like Robert is having the better start brehs.

dont forget his 5 fumbles to cams 2 (for the whole season)


it will be interesting to see if he can beat out cams first year numbers tho