Steph Curry or Lebron

[Professor Emeritus]

Right but look at that leap even Houston took after Steph's 2016 season.
And it's not just the aggregate attempts, it was how Steph and Klay to a lesser extent took them...normalizing 3 on 1 breaks spotting up, pulling up in transition, distance etc etc.

Houston jumped that year cause Dwight left and they signed Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson to be the scorers they were missing.

 

[Mars]

Steph. And it's not even close. Changed basketball as a whole, not just the nba, parks, playgrounds, gyms around the country. Everybody think they that nikka.


Kd the only nikka who did that Bron shyt.

If KD doesn't go to GS there's a good chance Lebron has 6 rings right now compared to Stephs 1.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Curry.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That's why stats ain't everything. Literally nobody attributes houston to that shyt.

Do you honestly get basketball knowledge from anywhere other than The Coli? Daryl Morey is known across the entire league as THE leader of analytics and three-point shooting emphasis, everyone treats him as the one who led that shyt.


The 3-Point Boom Is Far From Over

Morey was one of the first basketball minds to adopt that aphorism in a disciplined, decision-directing manner. Yet even his teams in Houston, where he took over as general manager in 2007, didn’t begin to push the boundaries of the sport until recently. “Most people think we’re going too fast; you’re the first person to ask why it went too slow,” he says. “It’s a combination of getting the right players and then obviously Coach D’Antoni being one of the all-time great innovators in the sport of basketball, and working with him to basically try and create a great offense.”

Morey needed a cohesive system in place to implement his ideas fully, and Mike D’Antoni, who had supervised an avant-garde pace-and-space scheme in Phoenix a full decade prior, was the coach who could turn vision into strategy.

High volume three-point shooting appears here to stay

The Rockets have been among the league leaders every year of the decade and, under General Manager Daryl Morey, got the reputation for being one of the most forward-thinking, analytically minded organizations in the league. Spacing the floor and taking threes were a part of the Rockets’ DNA dating to Tomjanovich in the 1990s, and now Morey had the numbers to show that the philosophy worked.

“Before James’ maturation, we never had dominant teams,” Rosas said of his time in Houston. “We were never the favorites. So the three-point shot … added a layer of volatility we needed [to try and win]. Whenever we played teams that were favorites, if you played the same basic game, you’re going to get the same basic result. So it was the ability to bring volatility to a game as an underdog.”

But even with Harden playing at an MVP level, the Rockets have supercharged their three-point philosophy. Who better to run a system modeled after D’Antoni’s system than D’Antoni himself?

NBA Teams Set Leaguewide 3-Point Record, 8 Percent Ahead of Last Season's Pace

Among the key figures in the NBA's three-point revolution are the Houston Rockets' regime of head coach Mike D'Antoni and general manager Daryl Morey. Due in large part to the duo's philosophy, Houston's led the NBA with more than 40 three-point attempts per game in each of the past two seasons, including 42.4 with six contests left in 2017-18.

BRENNAN | How Daryl Morey Changed the NBA

Under the Influence of Moreyball

Daryl Morey: Why the Billy Beane of the NBA is more than just his infamous tweet

Lowe: How Daryl Morey challenged NBA norms and almost won it all

Daryl Morey reshaped the NBA

Moreyball: The Houston Rockets and Analytics - Digital Innovation and Transformation

How departing Rockets GM Daryl Morey changed the NBA forever




But "literally no one" attributes that shyt to Houston, right?

Steph didn't cause anyone to start following analytics. The analytics movement was already well underway and if anyone led it then it was Morey, not Steph.

 

[Chris Cool]

If KD doesn't go to GS there's a good chance Lebron has 6 rings right now compared to Stephs 1.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Paper Boi]

LeBron James created the current player empowerment era.

players demanding trades
players jumping from team to team in free agency
super teams.


LeBron >>>>


whether you think that's a good or bad thing, that's on you, but LeBron is more influential.

 

[Chris Cool]

Do you honestly get basketball knowledge from anywhere other than The Coli?

Daryl Morey is known across the entire league as THE leader of analytics and three-point shooting emphasis, everyone treats him as the one who led that shyt.

The 3-Point Boom Is Far From Over




https://www.startribune.com/high-volume-three-point-shooting-appears-here-to-stay-in-nba/572133842/




NBA Teams Set Leaguewide 3-Point Record, 8 Percent Ahead of Last Season's Pace



BRENNAN | How Daryl Morey Changed the NBA

Under the Influence of Moreyball

Daryl Morey: Why the Billy Beane of the NBA is more than just his infamous tweet

Lowe: How Daryl Morey challenged NBA norms and almost won it all

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/19/daryl-morey-reshaped-nba-houston-rockets/

Moreyball: The Houston Rockets and Analytics - Digital Innovation and Transformation

How departing Rockets GM Daryl Morey changed the NBA forever




But "literally no one" attributes that shyt to Houston, right?

While that jump cannot be fully attributed to Morey, as some credit belongs to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson

Average person don't even know who Morely is.

What you're doing would be like somebody in here tryna give Kevin Garnett credit for players teaming up.

 

[killacal]

Curry didn't pop for the first half of the decade, he doesn't compare

Kd is a better comparison for Bron for the 2010s

 

[Mars]

What does that have to do with anything?

Curry having 3 rings adds to his legacy/influence...No one would consider Curry an all-time top 3 pg or top 12 player if he just had 1 ring.........Also, many players were influenced by what Lebron did (Kawhi, AD, KD, Kyrie, Harden)

 

[Paper Boi]

Steph. And it's not even close. Changed basketball as a whole, not just the nba, parks, playgrounds, gyms around the country. Everybody think they that nikka.


Kd the only nikka who did that Bron shyt.

Luka, Zion and Melo all play more like LeBron than they do Steph.

 

[Big Mel]

Steph and it isn’t remotely close.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Average person don't even know who Morely is.

Average person doesn't have any influence whatsoever on the NBA.


If the actual purpose of this thread is, "Who has the most influence on casuals" instead of who has the most influence on the NBA.....well it's still obviously Bron by a mile. Every word Bron says and step he takes has FAR more impact on the regular world than what Curry does.


The only way you win is if you turn it into, "Who do casuals think has most influenced the NBA?"

 

[Chris Cool]

Lebron's influence on KD helped Curry's ring count.

Curry having 3 rings adds to his legacy/influence...No one would consider Curry an all-time top 3 pg or top 12 player if he just had 1 ring...And that would negatively impact his perceived influence.

Curry had a ring before kd. You speaking hypotheticals.

 

[Mars]

Curry had a ring before kd. You speaking hypotheticals.

Yes, Curry had a ring...Lebron had Ring(s)....and just came back from a 3-1 deficit vs Curry...Lebron had great momentum until KD joined the Warriors

 

[Chris Cool]

Average person doesn't have any influence whatsoever on the NBA.


If the actual purpose of this thread is, "Who has the most influence on casuals" instead of who has the most influence on the NBA.....well it's still obviously Bron by a mile. Every word Bron says and step he takes has FAR more impact on the regular world than what Curry does.


The only way you win is if you turn it into, "Who do casuals think has most influenced the NBA?"

The thread doesn't say who is the most influential in the nba. If Steph and klay don't shyt like they do the game doesn't change. fukking Daryl Morely.

Do you even play ball? shyt even fukking 2k. Steph's influence extends far beyond the nba courts. He literally changed the game period.