Stephen A c00n says Mark Cuban should be applauded for his comments

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Fair enough - but the man also said he'd equally fear a white man with a certain look. It seems that doesn't hold any water in this discussion for some reason.

You need to learn how to read between the lines.
Cuban is Jewish and he said he stereotypes people

When he said "white man with shaved head and tattoos" he was referring to skinheads and neo-nazis

Why would a Jewish man have as much fear of a black man as he does for the group that want his people to be extinct?
 

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The stupidity of the average negro disgusts me

Dudes aren't offended by this guy comparing a regular black man to a neo nazi

:what:

he said nazi? I thought he said white guy with tattoos on his face? I didn't hear the recording, so...
 

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What Stephen A. Smith said was far worse than what Cuban said.I can understand a 50 yr old white man being shook of a nikka in a hoodie.I don't see how a black man from Hollis,Queens acts like all of us young dudes show up at job interviews/work wearing Tru Religion jeans and a Vancouver grizzlies snapback.
Truth be told, SAS probably has deep seated daddy issues. He tried to be a street dude, and they ran him off the block because he comes across as a snitch. He sees his job at ESPN as the pinnacle and he's showing his dad that he made it without him. It's like that Fresh Prince of Bel Air episode. "How come he don't want me man?" He tries to be the antithesis of the guys he reports about.
 

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You need to learn how to read between the lines.
Cuban is Jewish and he said he stereotypes people

When he said "white man with shaved head and tattoos" he was referring to skinheads and neo-nazis

Why would a Jewish man have as much fear of a black man as he does for the group that want his people to be extinct?
There are 1000's of white guys out there with tattoos all over the place that are neither Nazis or skinheads. C'mon man.
 

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There are 1000's of white guys out there with tattoos all over the place that are neither Nazis or skinheads. C'mon man.

If on that side of the street there’s a guy that has tattoos all over his face — white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere — I’m walking back to the other side of the street.
 

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he has for the last twenty minutes gone on a tirade about blks are to blame for their current situations sagging pants ...talking like you know what I'm saying...smoking weed ....the blk conservative on full display right now
This c00n acting like smoking weed is the same thing as doing crack:camby:
 

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thats an emotional argument though.
What he said doesnt make him racist.

A cat walking around in the middle of the night hooded up is a question mark to most people.
Do yall live in the hood? because ive walked around at all times of nights and black folks look back and watch people too....its not just white people.
Just last week I was walking out a store on the south side of Chicago...I was behind a chick and startled her when she looked back and saw me...she was black...is that racism?

look at it like this:
Poverty is the number one indicator of crime.
In cities Blacks represent a good amount of poor people (poor whites tend to live in rural areas)...so in cities black people tend to be responsible for a good amount of the crimes.
White people make the jump and associate black people that look a certain way w/ those crimes because there are a good amount in these highly populated areas that are doing the robbing.
Ignorant? Yes...but its reality.

In Chicago something like 400 people were murdered last year...About 330 were black people...and like 8 white people were murdered!
A lot of white people (not all) look at that and see young black people as a threat based on the numbers alone.

Now of course we all know the reasons why things are the way they are...but knowing human nature, do you really expect most people to dig deep and think about this...especially if it doesnt concern their people?
Its just not how people are...people stay at the surface...much like the constant CAC, or anti gay talk here.

What Cuban said opens up that conversation...but painting him as a racist off top shuts things down once again.


It's a disservice to all parties involved with these discussions as well because it's an attempt to invalidate anyone's views without actually having to reason with them or attempt to see where they're coming from. It reminds me of people who have nothing against Jews, but don't like what's happening to Palestinians in Israel. When they express themselves, rather than have a rational discussion with them on that subject, some people find it easier just to label them an anti-semite. Problem solved, now they don't have to have an uncomfortable conversation or have their views questioned. Same with someone who doesn't agree with gay marriage.......must be a homophobe, and again problem solved, discussion ends, and both parties walk away with their own views left unchallenged and further entrenched.

The same happens unfortunately to anyone Black who doesn't immediately label SAS a c00n, or post the Superman smiley. I haven't read every post within this thread or the other threads on this subject, because I was late on the story, and I just don't have the time to sift through all of these posts. There are posts however, from both sides that I thought were insightful, but it's disappointing and not beneficial when ones are labeled c00ns or accused of caping for racists, simply for having a different point of view. Simply having a different POV doesn't make them Jesse Lee Peterson.

By that same line of reasoning, it's a disservice to shut down people like Cuban. To the contrary, I think we want people like him to express themselves so we can see where they're coming from. It creates discussion, and the possibility of reasoning with the other side. I think it's more dangerous for these ones to keep their views to themselves and never be challenged. For them to fear being labeled a racist does nothing to further our standing in this country, or challenge their views. If anything, it causes people like Cuban, who could be a potential ally, self-censor themselves which would be the equivalent of White Flight in the realm of race discussions. If we can't have discussions with all of the parties involved, then what's the point in getting all emotional? Might as well just talk to the wall, and nothing will be solved.
 

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Lastly, I understand the substance of Cuban's comments, but Skip nailed it perfectly. The Hoodie reference was COMPLETELY out of bounds. I do respect Cuban for apologizing as he should have. That is a VERY sensitive subject for blacks in America.

SAS just not understanding the system of institutional racism and the ideals of this system consistently perpetuated and reinforced is disgusting
 

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Cuban only came out with these comments because of the whole Donald Sterling situation. Stop being fooled with this as him being honest bullshyt.:camby:


Let me ask you, would you rather him keep his mouth shut? Considering his wealth and influence, and ability to hide behind his money all the while contributing to institutionalized racism, would you rather him duck and hide all the while fukking us over? Or would you rather him feel comfortable enough to express himself so that we have an oppurtunity to engage him in dialogue along with other people that might hold similar views? The advancements we've made after all these years was made possible in part by being able to discuss these matters. You take a guy like Mark Cuban, relatively young and wealthy, and make it so that he doesn't feel like he can participate in discussions involving race, how does that benefit you and me? It doesn't even benefit him or people that think like them because they'll never ben challenged and will continue to hold on those views.

Take it a step further, you make him feel like he's under attack, and so many of them already unnecessarily feel that way, but you take someone like him and make him feel that way, you might create an enemy that wasn't out for our head in the first place. Look at people like the Koch brothers, those kind of people are dangerous in that they're actively financing and organizing causes that could potentially harm us. Cuban on the other hand, while having views that we don't agree with, isn't actively looking to put a foot on your neck. That said, let that man express himself. What he expressed, 95% of white people who hold similar views would never express it. Even your white friends, would never express it, but possibly feel the same way, some of them might even be in denial. Any oppurtunity we get to challenge those views and stereotypes, we should do it respectfully, and part of that includes encouraging them to express themselves. If not, we basically aid and abet a covert enemy at worst, and at the least we'll have the following......


 

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Cuban only came out with these comments because of the whole Donald Sterling situation. Stop being fooled with this as him being honest bullshyt.:camby:

That's what Skip and Michael said that but SAS just a damn fool, don't see that. SAS has nerve to say and insult our intelligence about black people better not wearing hoodie and blue jean to show up for job interview that had me :what:
 
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