Stephen A smith says lebron is top 5... if there was no such thing as clutch time

[Nigerianwonder]

Whole post is but dis shyt right chea tho.

We talking top 10 all time. The elite of the elite. Yall love to live in moment instead of really looking at a player as a whole. Are westbrook and harden top 10 now cause they are ballin at the moment? I dont think so. You Lebron stans are caught in the moment. Most people put shaq in the top 5 -10 range. Thats pretty elite.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

We talking top 10 all time. The elite of the elite. Yall love to live in moment instead of really looking at a player as a whole. Are westbrook and harden top 10 now cause they are ballin at the moment? I dont think so. You Lebron stans are caught in the moment. Most people put shaq in the top 5 -10 range. Thats pretty elite.

Lmao And it just gets worse.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Good comparison.. Shaq's dominance and impact of him just being in game are the intangibles that give him the clear edge over James. He was so unstoppable teams would foul him rather than let him get the ball down low.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Only a Stan would rather have Bron than Shaq

Shaq was the most dominant player of the modern era. It's not even a contest or debatable. Nobody is picking a prime Lebron over a prime shaq period. Lebrons 2 rings with the heat are piggy backed off wade (who already won a chip on his own with the heat). He gets credit for last years win though. (Although Kyrie was the real MVP)

 

[dh86]

Shaq was the most dominant player of the modern era. It's not even a contest or debatable. Nobody is picking a prime Lebron over a prime shaq period. Lebrons 2 rings with the heat are piggy backed off wade (who already won a chip on his own with the heat). He gets credit for last years win though. (Although Kyrie was the real MVP)

LeBron James is in his 14th season, yet you're spamming a thread comparing him to players that retired years ago. Because comparing LeBron James to anyone active is that ridiculous. Now what does that tell you?

 

[LexDiamonds]

Shaq was the most dominant player of the modern era. It's not even a contest or debatable. Nobody is picking a prime Lebron over a prime shaq period. Lebrons 2 rings with the heat are piggy backed off wade (who already won a chip on his own with the heat). He gets credit for last years win though. (Although Kyrie was the real MVP)

Lebron didn't piggyback off Wade, he was clearly the man hence the two regular season MVPS and Finals MVPS. Piggybacking would be like playing Robin which is what Kobe did to Shaq, and Wade did to lebron.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

LeBron James is in his 14th season, yet you're spamming a thread comparing him to players that retired years ago. Because comparing LeBron James to anyone active is that ridiculous. Now what does that tell you?

Yall are the ones comparing him to players retired years ago when you place him in top 5. His career aint over. But as of 2016 he has not surpassed Shaqs career IMO. It's a valid argument and debate.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Lebron didn't piggyback off Wade, he was clearly the man hence the two regular season MVPS and Finals MVPS. Piggybacking would be like playing Robin which is what Kobe did to Shaq, and Wade did to lebron.

Lebron was clearly the man in cleveland before he ran to wades team cause he couldnt get it done with the cavs.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Shaq was the most dominant player of the modern era. It's not even a contest or debatable. Nobody is picking a prime Lebron over a prime shaq period. Lebrons 2 rings with the heat are piggy backed off wade (who already won a chip on his own with the heat). He gets credit for last years win though. (Although Kyrie was the real MVP)

LeBron was leading the team in 4 of 5 categories every year in Miami and clearly outplaying Wade in their last 3 finals. That's why he was unanimously MVP in both finals wins. Try harder. Nobody wins with Mo Williams as the second best player and mike brown as the coach. Every series he went into from 2006-10, the 2nd-4th best player in the series all played on the other team.

 

[dh86]

Yall are the ones comparing him to players retired years ago when you place him in top 5. His career aint over. But as of 2016 he has not surpassed Shaqs career IMO. It's a valid argument and debate.

You just said it wasnt a debate, which is hilarious. Back in the SOHH days, we had the debates like Kobe vs Tmac or KG vs Duncan. The key thing though, is that we could then watch them play each other, and then talk about it. You can only compare greatness of players vs their peer group. LeBron played last night, so its easy to compare the entirety of LeBron's career to only Shaq's best seasons. That's why its best to compare players after they're all retired. LeBron pretty much lapped the field with his peers so...

 

[dh86]

Lebron was clearly the man in cleveland before he ran to wades team cause he couldnt get it done with the cavs.

That, like 'clutch time!' has nothing to do with basketball, thats why I hate discussing NBA at this point

 

[Nigerianwonder]

You just said it wasnt a debate, which is hilarious. Back in the SOHH days, we had the debates like Kobe vs Tmac or KG vs Duncan. The key thing though, is that we could then watch them play each other, and then talk about it. You can only compare greatness of players vs their peer group. LeBron played last night, so its easy to compare the entirety of LeBron's career to only Shaq's best seasons. That's why its best to compare players after they're all retired. LeBron pretty much lapped the field with his peers so...

I said shaq's dominance on the court wasn't up for debate. He was the most dominant player of the modern era period. More dominant than Lebron ever will be. But there is more to a player than that so yes his overall ranking is debatable. But if you feel you need to compare Lebron after he is retired then stop with all the top 5 talk until then.

 

[Gangstar8]

Give me shaq over LeBron anyway

LeBron stans on full retard mode

 

[Bilz]

let Stephen A....a guy who has been proven so spectacularly wrong on so many occasions determine who is "clutch" furthermore "top 5"






Here is the thing.......who is determined clutch is based on fandom, spotty eye tests and random specially selected situations to meet an agenda

SAS is one of the biggest kobestans of all time so of course he will say what he did. The media has always fueled the idea that Kobe was like Jordan and would take and make game winners with ease. The facts never supported it, the numbers never supported it, but it was repeated nonetheless.

LeBrons perceived lack of clutch is always well covered by the media. You still have people running to recite numbers from the 2011 finals and they ignore his presence and performance in 3 championships and five finals appearances in the five years since.

 

[Gangstar8]

SAS is one of the biggest kobestans of all time so of course he will say what he did. The media has always fueled the idea that Kobe was like Jordan and would take and make game winners with ease. The facts never supported it, the numbers never supported it, but it was repeated nonetheless.

LeBrons perceived lack of clutch is always well covered by the media. You still have people running to recite numbers from the 2011 finals and they ignore his presence and performance in 3 championships and five finals appearances in the five years since.

We will never forget 2011 and the bronze medal