Stephen A suspended from First Take and ESPN radio for a week

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Here's the statement from the President of ESPN



"As many of you know, there has been substantial news coverage in the past few days related to comments Stephen A. made last Friday in the wake of the NFL's decision to suspend Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice for two games following charges of assaulting his then fiancée, now wife, a few months ago.
"We've said publicly and in this space that those remarks did not reflect our company's point of view, or our values. They certainly don't reflect my personal beliefs.

"We have been engaged in thoughtful discussion about appropriate next steps. Those conversations have involved a diverse group of women and men in our company. Our women's ERG has added to the conversation and going forward, I know they will help us continue constructive discussion on this and related issues.

"Stephen has called what took place 'the most egregious mistake' of his career. I believe his apology was sincere and that he and we have learned from what we've collectively experienced.
"I'm confident we will all move forward with a greater sense of enlightenment and perspective as the lasting impact of these last few days. I want to thank all those whose thoughts have contributed along the way."


http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/29/stephen-a-smith-suspension-espn-ray-rice
 

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lemme just say this

if a woman is attacking you, you can stop her without socking her. shove her away, trip her, put her in a headlock, grab her dome and just play keep away, put her in a figure 4 leglock, give her a noogie on some playground bully shyt. Idc

I dunno if the rules have gotten so far that you're not allowed to defend yourself at all but you should be able to defend yourself without KOing her. Though I do acknowledge the amount of self control you gotta have to just not react automatically. Some people can't do it like trained soldiers/fighters/nikkas with the shyts etc.

Who is saying being hit by a woman automatically means that you have the knock her out? And the unwritten has always been such that you're not allowed to defend yourself as a guy. Once you do, the woman goes into victim mode and calls the cops, and best believe that once the cops show up and she's crying hysterically, they don't even want to know your name. The only words you hear from them is: hands behind your back sir.
 

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Hi comment was one of the dumbest shyt ever but suspending him is ridiculous. I'm sure the woman colleague complaining had something to do with it
 
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lemme just say this

if a woman is attacking you, you can stop her without socking her. shove her away, trip her, put her in a headlock, grab her dome and just play keep away, put her in a figure 4 leglock, give her a noogie on some playground bully shyt. Idc

I dunno if the rules have gotten so far that you're not allowed to defend yourself at all but you should be able to defend yourself without KOing her. Though I do acknowledge the amount of self control you gotta have to just not react automatically. Some people can't do it like trained soldiers/fighters/nikkas with the shyts etc.

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If I attack Mike Tyson he could restrain me without knocking me out but if he did knock me out for attacking him nikkas would say I got what I deserved and dude weighs much more than I do.

We not talking about you and Mike Tyson tho. But I do get what your saying, you should be held accountable for hitting first. People don't hold women accountable for hitting a male and it's only a thing if he hits back, if he doesn't he gets clowned, I get it.

Women/feminists are gonna protect that double standard to the end. The conversation of female accountability especially in situations like these where it's possible and typical that the man can take 100% accountability provokes a damn near automatic defensive response from women. All Beadle needed was one buzzword to signal to warp the perception of the argument and deflect it away. Look back at the Whoopi video. The sentence couldn't get out before others starting chirping about what a man should do, and no word about the other side. Basically males should preform acts of chivalry but not adhere chivalrous values because that imply they are not equal. Dunno what you can do about it tho :yeshrug:


Who is saying being hit by a woman automatically means that you have the knock her out? And the unwritten has always been such that you're not allowed to defend yourself as a guy. Once you do, the woman goes into victim mode and calls the cops, and best believe that once the cops show up and she's crying hysterically, they don't even want to know your name. The only words you hear from them is: hands behind your back sir.

Yeah it all depends on the situation. Like if it's BF and GF not in public, you can diffuse it without the cops being called. And if you really don't hit her she can't press charges neither. In public all you gotta do is get a stranger involved someway. Turn people into participants who'll restrain her for you. it's bullshyt you gotta do this but :manny:

It's not fair I know, but you can diffuse the situation without hitting her. And you should, not because it's fair or that I condone females hitting men but because if you leave a mark and whatnot that would be your ass. play smart
 

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That does not even equate to the same thing. Someone be already broke it down logically how the 2 do not relate got damn you nikkas is dense.:mindblown:

I dated a girl who worked for a women's shelter, and the overwhelming majority of domestic victims were "provoking" their men by doing shyt like "talking too long with a male friend" and "forgetting something at the grocery store." We're talking meek, emotionally beat-down women. That was the common victim. That was the "face" of verbally and physically abused women; Not ratchet chicks pushing their man's buttons and escalating situations.

So yes, I do see the victim-blaming similarities and understand why Beadle made the comment she did.
 

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Hi comment was one of the dumbest shyt ever but suspending him is ridiculous. I'm sire the woman colleague complaining had something to do with it
Totally agree.
Im not sure beadle really has anything to do with it. he wss going to catch hell regardless. Suspending him is a fukkin joke. Trying to run away from the issue and come back like.nothing happened.
 

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There is a difference between domestic violence vs domestic abuse

If a women is getting the hell beat out of her regularly that's domestic abuse and if she one day stands up and tries to drop dude IMO that was not her provoking anything that is called being fed up you getting beat on

By all accounts that does not appear to be the issue with ray rice as they just seemed to be going through domestic violence where a argument crossed the line and turned physical.

You can't use one example to explain the other. It's just 2 different levels. If a man has not been abusing his woman but she is a loud smart mouth woman who can't keep her hands to herself that is legitamately provoking if she decided to swing on a man and she is unfair in that circumstance to think real "manhood" is her being able to fire off on a dude and him hold his composure and not swing back. That woman is not a victim if she swinging on someone first she just assaulted that man by law and what comes after is her fault. Period.
 

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Totally agree.
Im not sure beadle really has anything to do with it. he wss going to catch hell regardless. Suspending him is a fukkin joke. Trying to run away from the issue and come back like.nothing happened.

No he wasn't. The comment in context was true. He made a similar comment in the past about the Chad Johnson/Evelyn situation and only Jemele got upset about it and there was nowhere close to this level of backlash. And he was right in that situation as well.
 

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over the last few days, i realize a lot of men just hate women. Hate women speaking up for themselves, being in the workplace, etc.


A lot of you brehs have serious issues.
Nah I think people can disagree and it just be that without all the extra shyt. People come from different situations and also damn near everybody is saying something similar we just not going to agree 100. Who on here done condone some Ike Turner @ them are stop with the over exaggerating. Most have said if you keep your hands to yourself you'll most likely prevent escalation of stuff like this when people are heated anyway. Nobody has serious issues even the single mother crew that have very feminine ways about what they co signing just different experiences. Now if you show me dudes really on that Ike Turner smack a chick for existing you have a point otherwise you just grandstanding my man.
 
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