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Not including blacks, white supremacists don't like:
Gays & Transgenders
Hispanics
Black militants don't like:
Gays & Transgenders
Hispanics
(I could list other common things they don't like but those are just a couple of examples)
The only reason these so called militants have a problem with white supremacists is because they hate blacks too. If they only hated on gays, transgenders and hispanics, these so called militants wouldn't care about white supremacy because every time something happens to hispanics, gays, etc these so called militants say "hold your own nuts" to every other group. In other words, they don't care about discrimination unless it happens to them which is a vary narrow way to think. Because discrimination is not narrow. It's vast.
Agreeing with white supremacist beliefs is agreeing with discrimination in many situations. I don't believe in discrimination.
I'm not sure how serious you are about the Jesus thing but I do believe that Christianity is a tool used by white people to control black people minds and turn them into soft shoe c00ns. By forgiving everything white supremacists do and always taking the godly high road instead of properly fighting back.
With all due respect, I don't expect a Trump supporting black conservative to understand why it's not a good idea for a minority to agree with a white supremacist. They don't benefit the minority.
@Call Me James in here
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Our vote should be earned. Period. If you cant respect that your whole perspective is wack.
FOH you brain dead cretinYou have to understand that none of them represent your interest. But atleast with new republicans, black and white conservative interests converge when it comes to issues like Immigration. Blacks can't keep blindly voting for democrats , keep your options open and see which parties policies benefit the blacks community more. It could democrat one year, republicans the next. If you keep your options open and don't let the black liberal elite in Hollywood and NY control you , then your vote becomes more valuable, and both democrats and republicans will try their best to appeal to swing black voters. Never let both parties get comfortable and complacent.
Any time a Democrat even mentions race, most white voters have nuclear meltdowns.
The problem isn't liberal or conservative. The problem is white. Neither have our best interests in mind, because us succeeding is a threat to them.
How is social welfare causing more problems? More problems than what? Lack of education and drive probably harms people receiving what I assume you're referring to by social welfare (very narrow - food stamps/subsidized housing).The problem is, social welfare causes more problems than they fix. I really wish there was a way of administering social welfare without incentivizing destructive behaviour and creating generational dependency, but I don't think that's possible.
I don't think this is the issue. The issue isn't that you share similar positions that racist hold, but instead giving power to racist will ultimately affect you negatively.Some of you need to accept that racism is not the only major line of division in modern politics.
Black and conservatives diverge on racism, it's clear, but they may converge on other things.
Black people should not be excluded from a political position ONLY because white supremacist hold the same position.
You can be pro protectionism or against it, but you can't tell black people to refuse protectionism only because (some) white racists like it.
Black people should make choice according to their values and interests, not because white people, whether they are liberals or conservatives, like something or hate something.
They are all racist... so this checks outI don't think this is the issue. The issue isn't that you share similar positions that racist hold, but instead giving power to racist will ultimately affect you negatively.
Fair enough, but what we have now is blatant neglect... surely you see the problem with automatically giving our vote to a party that is doing nothing for us?And conservatives have made very little attempt at earning the black vote. At least Dems actually attempt to lie to me.![]()
No one in this thread supports BannonThere are some mentally ill posters in this thread.
Claiming they black but then supporting a white supremacists.
There are liberal policies that assuage the black predicament. That shouldn't be up for debate. The reality is as a black person you really shouldn't expect any kind of laws that are going to directly target black people. What you can do is figure out what policies will do the most to help black people and vote accordingly. There's always going to be a lot of hold your own nuts when you don't have as much money with capitalism.
Wouldn't a better strategy be to run or encourage people to run instead of hoping a candidate you agree with will show up?Fair enough, but what we have now is blatant neglect... surely you see the problem with automatically giving our vote to a party that is doing nothing for us?Exploring other options(3rd parties included) should definitely be on the table.
you are setting up for the black vote to be exploited, essentially you are saying that black people need to vote democrat and also not demand anything specific for black people, you have been hemming and hawing around this point and im glad you finally said it directly so that its exposed
this is the crux of the issue and what needs to be discussed, this is where you cross the line into c00ning or at best you are stuck in an old mindset that is not going to take black people to the next level
but lets say you (as im sure you will) say that you are just being realistic, ok fine, but what kills me is shyt like this from black liberals
and this from the democrats
DACA Clash Hangs Over Year-End Budget Talks
so all of a sudden why is it that democrats are able to do something for a specific group, they are willing to shut down the government for illegal immigrants using political power that comes from black people
with the democrats there is a disconnect between what black people are putting in and what black people are getting out