Steve Kerr was right about lebron

[ManBearPig]

LeBron has single handedly proven the importance of a consistent jumpshot. Most important aspect of the game if youre a non big. Starting to change to even if youre a big

Magic never had jumper like that and he had 5 rings.

 

[ManBearPig]

I said kawhi or kd would make the finals 6 times in a row easily in lebrons heat and cleveland teams easily. Just shows how overrated lebrons 6 finals in a row is.

I think the bulls would win in 2011. They lost because of LeBron was unstoppable and had Rose in a straightjacket at the same time.

I don't see the Cavs beating the Hawks last year with Kawhi instead of LeBron nor the 2012 Heat beating the Celtics with Kawhi instead of LeBron

 

[ManBearPig]

Current Kawhi and KD, yes they do. Make 6 finals just like lebron.
Kawhi would not have to lead them past anything. Wade would do that.

U started watching NBA basketball overnight ass nikka.

wade was struggling in that Bulls series for some reason and the Heats roster was very thin that year. Kawhi gonna pick up his ppg to 30pgg against the best defensive team in the NBA at that time?

Wade was playing with a bone bruise in his knee in 2013 and the reason why the Pacers series was so close was because of their bigs dominating the heats bigs. Kawhi cab gonna fill for LeBron and still win this series

 

[Big Boss]

Is that why Kyrie has not only been the Cavs' best player in the Finals but arguably their best player in the playoffs? If it weren't for him this series would already be over.

Isn't kyrie the leading scorer for the cavs this series?

 

[Sunalmighty]

Jordan was not the explosive scorer Kobe was nor did he have as many ways to kill you as Kobe did.

Im not even going to argue this moot point anymore. Jordan was not the best in every single thing in basketball. Sorry.

How many scoring titles does Kobe have

 

[Sunalmighty]

He is only talking about shooting percentage

kobe was a way better shooter than jordan

Jordantards are the worst

last time I checked shooting % and being a good shooter go hand in hand

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Magic never had jumper like that and he had 5 rings.

This aint the 80s anymore fam

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I got four different Kobestans replying to me on the same thread. Must have hit a nerve.

If Lbron is so much better than Kobe, why is he on the verge of 2-5 instead of 5-2?

Damn, you STILL counting Shaq's championships for Kobe in 2016?

If Shaq had never been there, Kobe's probably still staring at only 2 for 20 in championships.

First of all, no way durant is losing to trash pacers and hawks with wade and bosh
And this is not kawhi's peak, most likely he is just getting started

I know that all of your posts have shown you're not a master of facts, but Lebron has never played the Hawks with Wade and Bosh.

The ONLY time Lebron faced the 61-win Hawks, it was with 2nd/3rd best players out and his best sidekicks being guys who really shouldn't even be starting on any decent team. And we've all seen many times how often Durant wins when he loses a major player for his team.

Yes, I agree that Durant probably beats the Pacers, and the Raptors, about the same way Lebron did. But that only covers 3 of 6 - he still has to beat the near-defending-champ Celtics and 60+ win Bulls back-to-back, tough Pacers/Celtics teams back-to-back with Bosh out, Wade struggling frequently, and everyone else being trash, and the 50-win Bulls and the 60+ win Hawks back-to-back with hardly any teammates at all.

Most of those foes only look so weak in our memory because Lebron sonned them all in the end. Objectively, you're talking about a stretch where he beat 8 50-win teams (including two 60+ win teams) and the 49-win Pacers, often with major players out or injured....just to get to the Finals.

Put the odds of getting through to each of those Finals, in order, at 50%, 50%, 90%, 90%, 35%, and 95%...chances are he's going to lose about 2. And really, his actual statistical chances probably aren't as high as what I've given him.

Yup that's my bad. 6% it is. As far as the shooting percentage goes, that's an interesting question.

No doubt Kobe's efficiency drops in the Finals which probably comes down to shot selection, preparation and level of defense.

But again, Kerr's point makes perfect sense. At least to me. Jordan also shot a relatively low FG % in his last 3 Finals (42/46/43) but he was able to get his points when needed.

Yeah
Who did they have to beat? Hawks?

First off, Kobe shoots a lower % cause he actually, you know, shoots the ball. More on that in a bit.

LeBron is a known cherrypicker/front-runner. He's only letting that jumper fly when he's comfortably ahead. Otherwise, he's doing his best Chris Paul impression and dribbling the air out the basketball.

What did LeBron shoot last Finals? 39%? Ok, there you go. And if you look at the stats, he shot something pathetic like 27% outside 5ft. 2014 most of his numbers came after the Spurs had already taken command of the game and it was over. He's been a statpadder. 2013 Danny Green was about to win Finals MVP while he was getting clamped by Boris Diaw until Ray Allen saved him and he got a once-in-a-lifetime Game 7 where his jumper actually worked. 2011, well, we already know. This Finals is laughable. Kyrie was the only one even TRYING to score in the 2nd half of last game.

Basically when he's not bulldozing and stiffarming his way to the hoop and getting away with all sorts of offensive fouls, he's a brick layer. It's THE reason why he's lost so many Finals. Carlisle told Marion and Stevenson to play off him and dare him to shoot and pack the paint with two 7 footers. Pop even put Boris fukking Diaw on him and dared him to shoot. GSW is praying he takes jumpers but he's too shook to even try at this point.

Last game he only had 19 points until those garbage time layups. Bu-bu-bu-but his efficiency!! Cavs lost the game. And in large part due to his passivity.

At least with Kobe you know your best player is going to at least TRY to win the game. And at least he can score in a multitude of ways when he has a guy like Bruce Bowen or Tony Allen defending him. Put a guy like Kawhi or Iggy on LeBron and we'll... you know how it goes. What has he done when he had Leandro Barbosa or Steph Curry or Biyombo last round guarding him? Pass or throw up a brick... LeBron, Wade, and Durant have gone on record on saying how they don't attempt end-of-quarter shots because it hurts their FG%. Pathetic. Of course you're going to have a pretty FG% when you're more concerned with the box score than possibly giving your team another 3 points.


And lastly, how does he get a pass for 2014-2016? You do realize he built those teams, yes? He wanted Wade and Bosh. He wanted Kyrie and Love. He wanted bums like James Jones and Channing Frye. He wanted the coach fired midway through the season for Tyron Lue. He wanted to trade two 1sts for Mozgov. He wanted to trade Wiggins. He wanted useless Mike Miller.

Crazy how LeBron will literally build a team to his exact liking and you shameless Bron stans will cape for him like "well he would have needed to do the impossible to win anyways."

If Kobe running Shaq out of town or treating his teammates like spectators is a knock on him, then LeBron forming flabbynsick super teams that repeatedly fail has to be a knock on him.


Anyways, 2-5 don't lie. Dude is ass when he faces a Western Conference team.

His biggest competition in the East the last 4 years has been a Pacers team who's 2nd best player was Roy Hibbert. Tells you everything you need to know about his "6 straight Finals" you stans love to jerkoff about.

There's no point in trying to debate with him.

He's more concerned with FG% than the star player actually competing and TRYING to assert his offensive game on the opponent.

LeBron passing up an 15 footer with room to give Shumpert and open look which he will inevitably brick is apparently a better choice than Kobe taking the 15 footer with room and missing.

Bron stans

 

[MoneyTron]

No nerves hit. Your information just hasn't refuted the premise of the thread.

 

[Codeine Bryant]

This dude out here just making up shyt now.

Discounting a 3 peat title run in which Kobe's playoff averages were:

2000: 21-4-4
2001: 29-7-6
2002: 26-6-4


Meanwhile LeBron's playoff averages when he won were:

2012: 30-10-5
2013: 26-8-6


2001 and 2002 Kobe seemingly had a very similar statline compared to 2013 LeBron, but this typical Bron stan is out here trying to discount 3 of Kobe's titles cause it doesn't fit his stupid narrative. Kobe was also only 23 and 24 years old in the 2001 and 2002 playoff runs, respectively. Not even in his prime and putting up numbers comparable to prime LeBron.

It's just pathetic what these shameless Bron stans have been reduced to. Literally downplaying another player's achievements or disregarding them entirely in order to keep their hero in a positive light.


Keep in mind this is the same guy who told me a career of 2000 Kobe Bryant wasn't as good as Sam Jones. Even though his 99-2000 season averages are better than Sam Jones' career averages across the board. He literally just makes things up in order to justify his LeBron stannery.

 

[Gravity]

Isn't kyrie the leading scorer for the cavs this series?

Do you agree with that flown that Kyrie has been the Cavs best player during the playoffs? Waaaaay too much shyt posting here man.

 

[MalikX]

This dude out here just making up shyt now.

Discounting a 3 peat title run in which Kobe's playoff averages were:

2000: 21-4-4
2001: 29-7-6
2002: 26-6-4


Meanwhile LeBron's playoff averages when he won were:

2012: 30-10-5
2013: 26-8-6


2001 and 2002 Kobe seemingly had a very similar statline compared to 2013 LeBron, but this typical Bron stan is out here trying to discount 3 of Kobe's titles cause it doesn't fit his stupid narrative. Kobe was also only 23 and 24 years old in the 2001 and 2002 playoff runs, respectively. Not even in his prime and putting up numbers comparable to prime LeBron.

It's just pathetic what these shameless Bron stans have been reduced to. Literally downplaying another player's achievements or disregarding them entirely in order to keep their hero in a positive light.


Keep in mind this is the same guy who told me a career of 2000 Kobe Bryant wasn't as good as Sam Jones. Even though his 99-2000 season averages are better than Sam Jones' career averages across the board. He literally just makes things up in order to justify his LeBron stannery.

Kobe haters wouldn't even have this narrative had Shaq stayed in Los Angeles to finish his career because then the Lakers would be winning championships and Kobe would be getting the Finals MVPs, the same way Wade got them in Miami instead of Shaq, but Shaq was a big hoe and wouldn't let Kobe take over when it was clear he was on the decline. Shaq's bullshyt cheated Kobe and him out of another 3 or 4 rings. Kobe and Shaq's relationship could've been like Kareem and Magic. When Magic came in, Kareem was the leader. And once Kareem got older, Magic was the leader. But no...Shaq had to be a fakkit about it

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Lmao "Shaqs championships". Shaq doesn't even have one single finals win before Kobe, but Shaq is the only reason Kobe has 5 rings? Its like saying Pau is the only reason Kobe got rings 4 & 5. But then you look at Pau before Kobe, and you realize he never won a single playoff game before Kobe These excuses died a long time ago, especially when you notice Shaq has 4 rings to Kobes 5.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

This dude out here just making up shyt now.

Discounting a 3 peat title run in which Kobe's playoff averages were:

2000: 21-4-4
2001: 29-7-6
2002: 26-6-4


Meanwhile LeBron's playoff averages when he won were:

2012: 30-10-5
2013: 26-8-6


2001 and 2002 Kobe seemingly had a very similar statline compared to 2013 LeBron, but this typical Bron stan is out here trying to discount 3 of Kobe's titles cause it doesn't fit his stupid narrative. Kobe was also only 23 and 24 years old in the 2001 and 2002 playoff runs, respectively. Not even in his prime and putting up numbers comparable to prime LeBron.

It's just pathetic what these shameless Bron stans have been reduced to. Literally downplaying another player's achievements or disregarding them entirely in order to keep their hero in a positive light.


Keep in mind this is the same guy who told me a career of 2000 Kobe Bryant wasn't as good as Sam Jones. Even though his 99-2000 season averages are better than Sam Jones' career averages across the board. He literally just makes things up in order to justify his LeBron stannery.

Hes the same idiot who says Lbron has eliminated 12 50 win teams in the playoffs. In reality, Lbron has only eliminated 8. So he isn't making shyt up now, he always does.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

I wish bytches stop dissin Pippen.

Ima get my nikka Markeith Rivers to fukk yall up the ass