Stevie Wonder defends Bruno Mars

[dora_da_destroyer]

Nobody is saying he's wack at what he does. Nobody is saying he's not allowed to do the shyt. Non-black people been biting black music for decades. Most of us still listen to Bobby Caldwell, Teena Marie, Michael McDonald, etc... The main issue is that he's (Bruno) pushed ahead of other AA male R&B artists. You're strawmanning into whether or not he makes good songs. That's not the issue.

he's not being pushed ahead of other AA male artists, first of all bruno is a pop star - been one before this album, he has a huge platform already - whether he wants to drop bubblegum pop, rock, or r&b, he simply has the platform for it.

secondly, WE ourselves are not supporting, promoting, or championing for the artists who are making quality r&b, you got 30 pages on a vulgar shytty 45 track chris brown album then those of us trying to get people to listen to cats like sir or daniel ceasar...even anderson pak, get 2-5 pages of views/replies. comments like "no one wants to hear love songs/ slows songs/ men crying about or simping a woman / that old sounding ass r&b" pour straight from the mouths of black posters...now someone non-black does it and yall can't stand it. stop stop stop

i'm really into music, and i'm not going to sugar coat that black listeners (younger generations especially) abandoned soulful r&b, this isn't just some industry constructed problem.

 

[Azul]

Nobody is saying he's wack at what he does. Nobody is saying he's not allowed to do the shyt. Non-black people been biting black music for decades. Most of us still listen to Bobby Caldwell, Teena Marie, Michael McDonald, etc... The main issue is that he's (Bruno) pushed ahead of other AA male R&B artists. You're strawmanning into whether or not he makes good songs. That's not the issue.

Thank you.


And Bruno is not fukking black stop this. His father is half PR and half Eastern European Jew.

 

[NoChillJones]

It makes perfect sense. A lot of immigrants groups don’t let outsiders in their mix, especially concerning their culture. This is an irrefutable fact. But, black American culture, created by the descendants of slaves is up for grabs

Breh he is an American not a foreigner, he was born in Brooklyn. fukk are you talking about with that shyt? That's why you point doesn't make sense. Your confusing racial make up with the culture of an entire country....... You ca'ts be so quick to be upset that you don't even think about wtf you be saying...........

 

[George's Dilemma]

This is stupid, they basically just make a show discussing different topics. It would be like having a coli panel record shyt and put it on youtube. Pulling the "well what do they offer the community" shyt is so garbage here and you know it. People can give their fukking opinions. Especially, African americans about African American music. A better question is "what does Bruno Mars do that is so pro-Black that anyone should defend him biting black music?". Why do people immediately attack black people in these situations. That sister is 100% correct in what she said, and a lot of yall keep dancing around what she said and yall strawman into other shyt.

Number one she's not 100% right as evident by the fact that Black people aren't uniformly agreeing with her both on the question itself of cultural appropriation, and secondarily most don't even think it's an important subject. Priorities people, priorities. She can voice her opinion all she wants, or to provide a more accurate depiction of what she's doing........she can whine and complain insufferably all she wants just like 90% of all the other hoteps and shea butter septum ring twits on social media.

You know what really stands out to me about conversations like these though? You ever notice that the individuals who scream the loudest about cultural appropriation either contribute very little or don't contribute at all to the culture they're supposedly fighting so hard for? Here she is complaining about someone eating off of Black music, but I want to know what she's doing for Black music or has done for it. For that matter I want to know what she contributes to the Black community by and large. Youtube videos don't cut it in my opinion when it comes to activism with substantial results. I can scream at the television when Adrien Broner doesn't let his hands go, but I'm not actually in the ring fighting either.

Which goes back to her complaining about a popular non-Black artist obviously influenced by Black music. It's noteworthy that Black musicians are defending Bruno Mars, and let's drop the pretension and projection assuming they're only doing so for their own benefit. Stevie Wonder is established and wealthy and has NO need to defend Bruno Mars. Here's the kicker though. The difference between Stevie Wonder and this shea butter twit is this........STEVIE WONDER IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE CULTURE WE CALL BLACK MUSIC. And here he is defending Bruno Mars, as did Charlie Wilson who also is part of the culture we call Black Music. She's not part of that culture. She's just another consumer. In fact, my instincts tell me that the depth of her exploration into Black music is quite limited. She's a sideliner, nothing more, and maybe a whole lot less.

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

I was speaking toward the part of you saying he experienced racism. There are other people his age with different opinions. All I’m saying is, that his opinion is one of many.

ok his opinion is one of many. I agree.

Someone said he's blind so what does he know, I said blind doesn't mean he doesn't know racism and you're saying his opinion is one of many, I get it, but don't get why your pointing out something so obvious

 

[NoChillJones]

Ban?
This shyt is spam at this point

Yeah that nikka's shyt is garbage too........

 

[ThaEruditious]

he's not being pushed ahead of other AA male artists, first of all bruno is a pop star - been one before this album, he has a huge platform already - whether he wants to drop bubblegum pop, rock, or r&b, he simply has the platform for it.

secondly, WE ourselves are not supporting, promoting, or championing for the artists who are making quality r&b, you got 30 pages on a vulgar shytty 45 track chris brown album then those of us trying to get people to listen to cats like sir or daniel ceasar...even anderson pak, get 2-5 pages of views/replies. comments like "no one wants to hear love songs/ slows songs/ men crying about or simping a woman / that old sounding ass r&b" pour straight from the mouths of black posters...now someone non-black does it and yall can't stand it. stop stop stop

i'm really into music, and i'm not going to sugar coat that black listeners (younger generations especially) abandoned soulful r&b, this isn't just some industry constructed problem.

/fukking thread!!

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

No its not.

LMAO

ok...

 

[Taco]

I fukk with Bruno and never understood why he got hate for making music he is inspired by. Ain’t that what musics about?

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

ok...

 

[TheNig]

I said it once and I'll say it again if that Sensai Hotep bytch aint making no hot records or pushing some young talent, she needs to sit the fukk down and shut the fukk up.

Get tired of these woke ass nikkas doing all this talking but ain't with no action.

 

[8WON6]

he's not being pushed ahead of other AA male artists, first of all bruno is a pop star - been one before this album, he has a huge platform already - whether he wants to drop bubblegum pop, rock, or r&b, he simply has the platform for it.

secondly, WE ourselves are not supporting, promoting, or championing for the artists who are making quality r&b, you got 30 pages on a vulgar shytty 45 track chris brown album then those of us trying to get people to listen to cats like sir or daniel ceasar...even anderson pak, get 2-5 pages of views/replies. comments like "no one wants to hear love songs/ slows songs/ men crying about or simping a woman / that old sounding ass r&b" pour straight from the mouths of black posters...now someone non-black does it and yall can't stand it. stop stop stop

i'm really into music, and i'm not going to sugar coat that black listeners (younger generations especially) abandoned soulful r&b, this isn't just some industry constructed problem.

1) Bruno mars is clearly pushed because he gives people the ability to openly like black culture without openly propping up a black person. Same with JT. A lot of people just muddy up that because he's not white. Have you notice many of the bubblegum pop people at some point have to "blacken" themselves up at some point just to be seen as cool, then they dip out.
2) Black people do support black artists. LMAO. Chris Brown beat the breaks off Rihanna, and all these black girls I know still be at his concerts. Many of these older and current acts still tour, they're just not pushed in the mainstream. Ask yourself why a guy like Aloe Blac just kind of falls of the face of the earth. Was he too vulgar? He was too something..... Also, GTFOH with this "yall put it down a long time ago mess"...white people are copying black people damn near in real time as well. How does a garbage dude like Post Malone have some type of place "at the table" with people like Kendrick? This dude basically makes karaoke songs that black sounding shyt like "swag", "haters" and "ballin" repeated in them. The issue isn't about what time frame is being pulled from. Hell, black kids come up with all kinds of dances, but as soon as white people do it..."yo let's do the _____challenge ". "Yall don't listen to that old shyt" is just another strawman argument. Just because it's not mainstream don't mean we aint listening to it.

The issue is people want black culture, they just don't want black people. We're the only culture that people talk all that "it's everybody's" shyt.

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

Even deaf people enjoy/make music.

If you wanna explain how music isn't for everyone, be my guest.

 

[bammtronics]

But Stevie Wonder's opinion in this particular issue is pointless cause he's blind. Get to the likes of Al Green or someone else who can see, how he really thinks.

yoooooo

 

[xoxodede]

Nobody is saying he's wack at what he does. Nobody is saying he's not allowed to do the shyt. Non-black people been biting black music for decades. Most of us still listen to Bobby Caldwell, Teena Marie, Michael McDonald, etc... The main issue is that he's (Bruno) pushed ahead of other AA male R&B artists. You're strawmanning into whether or not he makes good songs. That's not the issue.

This is my point. Again, it's like this - if Black men don't care - I guess I shouldn't either.

I don't understand why AA male artist are not coming out and speaking their peace on this - cause it is true.

Black male artist, especially Stevie needs to at least speak on the discrimination and the lack of funding, supporting, exposure, budget that Black artist get today - instead of speaking on Bruno.

Byrson, Trey, Eric Roberson, Usher, Musiq Soulchild, Tank -- even old school artist that we all love - Dave Hollister, Donell Jones, Avant, Carl Thomas, etc - if they came out now would NOT get a deal.

- Black male artist are not on the radio or even getting gigs like that. It's terrible.