Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

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I'm trying to follow the process of if we know Mitch will not take the deal, why doesn't Pelosi take the deal, get nothing in return, have the deal not get voted, and supposedly gain something she would have not gotten if she continued to fight for a better deal despite being baited.

Yeah I'm still drawing a blank on that one. Cause Mnuchin don't control the senate and the senate has been saying fukk a deal since Trump was hopped up on covid drugs and wild tweeting.
 

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:laff: i'll take your cowardice as an admission that im right. i asked you a simple question 5 fukking times and you refuse to answer it, because you cant

pathetic. absolutely pathetic

You can't even keep your argument straight, so I'm not sure which one you think you're 'right' about?

Is it pointless to shame McConnell or should Pelosi try to point the finger at him?

Is it all about getting the money to the American people or is it just a game of optics if Pelosi takes the deal?

Will the Senate take the Mnuchin deal or do they not care about passing another stimulus?

Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic?

:hula:.
 

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I'm trying to follow the process of if we know Mitch will not take the deal, why doesn't Pelosi take the deal, get nothing in return, have the deal not get voted, and supposedly gain something she would have not gotten if she continued to fight for a better deal despite being baited.
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it's not complicated. if pelosi takes the deal, one of two things will happen:

-it passes, and that 1.9 trillion goes out to the country
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-mitch mcconnell has to explicitly be the one to turn it down, along with the senate republicans, in the face of the democrats and the president saying they should pass it. a move that will be wildly unpopular with america. so the republicans have to eat all of that negativity, and pelosi has lost nothing

what is the difference between pelosi not agreeing to any deal, or agreeing to the 1.8 and mitch turning it down? she's in the exact same place either way
 

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you're lying to make a point. how did pelosi proudly turn it down on wolf blitzer if it doesnt exist?

i'll ask you for the 80th time, because you're also clearly terrified of answering the question

i think pelosi should take the 1.9 from mnuchin. if you disagree with me, then fine. what the fukk is your better plan?

I don't understand why you keep acting as if Mnuchin and Pelosi whiteboarding in a Zoom call is some sort of deal. She said she wasn't interested in the terms he was drawing out.

You still don't seem to understand that if she had of said yes Steve, the figures that you have drawn out here are to my liking, that the next steps involved congress - you know, the actual people who ratify bills.

In your mind, what happens after she agrees to his Zoom numbers?
 

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You can't even keep your argument straight, so I'm not sure which one you think you're 'right' about?

Is it pointless to shame McConnell or should Pelosi try to point the finger at him?

Is it all about getting the money to the American people or is it just a game of optics if Pelosi takes the deal?

Will the Senate take the Mnuchin deal or do they not care about passing another stimulus?

Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic?

:hula:.
the 6th post and you refuse to answer :laff:

if i'm wrong and pelosi shouldnt take the 1.9, then what the fukk is your better plan?

are you really this intellectually bankrupt that you can't even take your own position on this issue?
 

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I don't understand why you keep acting as if Mnuchin and Pelosi whiteboarding in a Zoom call is some sort of deal. She said she wasn't interested in the terms he was drawing out.

You still don't seem to understand that if she had of said yes Steve, the figures that you have drawn out here are to my liking, that the next steps involved congress - you know, the actual people who ratify bills.

In your mind, what happens after she agrees to his Zoom numbers?
breh, answer the fukking question :laff:

you think that my idea sucks, that pelosi shouldnt agree to the 1.9 from mnuchin. tha't's fine

what the fukk is your better plan? can you answer the question ? :what:

i havent seen juelzing like this....i dont think ever :dead:
 

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It’s over. The election is next Tuesday and the senate was adjourned. I told y’all a week ago why they were holding up the stimulus because they’re trying to clear as many people off the rolls as possible. And they’re checking for fraud. Potna of mine Who has a small IT company said he got a call yesterday from TWC checking some of his info because of his and his employees DUA claims.
 

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are you really this intellectually bankrupt that you can't even take your own position on this issue?

Here you go projecting again. You've contradicted yourself multiple times in this thread but want to talk about somebody not taking a position. :unimpressed:

This whole discussion needs to be moved to that Cac Mamba bad faith argument thread.
 

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Here you go projecting again. You've contradicted yourself multiple times in this thread but want to talk about somebody not taking a position. :unimpressed:

This whole discussion needs to be moved to that Cac Mamba bad faith argument thread.
7 posts and you cant answer the question :laff:

if my idea sucks that pelosi should take the 1.9 from mnuchin, what is your better idea?

i'll just take your cowardice on this as a tacit admission that i'm right :yeshrug: i dont know how else to take it
 

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I don't understand why you keep acting as if Mnuchin and Pelosi whiteboarding in a Zoom call is some sort of deal. She said she wasn't interested in the terms he was drawing out.

You still don't seem to understand that if she had of said yes Steve, the figures that you have drawn out here are to my liking, that the next steps involved congress - you know, the actual people who ratify bills.

In your mind, what happens after she agrees to his Zoom numbers?
again, another poster who thinks that my idea sucks that pelosi take the 1.9 from mnuchin, but is completely unable to articulate his own strategy. this is embarrassing :hhh:

i'll take your refusal to post a better idea, as an admission that im right :yeshrug: feel free to correct that and post your fukking idea

if you dont want pelosi to take the 1.9, then what the fukk is your idea? what is your better plan?
 

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again, another poster who thinks that my idea sucks that pelosi take the 1.9 from mnuchin, but is completely unable to articulate his own strategy. this is embarrassing :hhh:

i'll take your refusal to post a better idea, as an admission that im right :yeshrug: feel free to correct that and post your fukking idea

if you dont want pelosi to take the 1.9, then what the fukk is your idea? what is your better plan?

Today is is 10/27/2020, the election is on 11/3/2020. It's pretty obvious what the plan is.
 

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Today is is 10/27/2020, the election is on 11/3/2020. It's pretty obvious what the plan is.
still afraid to answer :laff:

i dont know how else im supposed to respond. if my idea sucks that pelosi takes the 1.9 from mnuchin, why cant you post a better idea? what am i missing here?

am i right that she should take it? or do you have a better idea?
 

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it's not complicated. if pelosi takes the deal, one of two things will happen:

-it passes, and that 1.9 trillion goes out to the country
or
-mitch mcconnell has to explicitly be the one to turn it down, along with the senate republicans, in the face of the democrats and the president saying they should pass it. a move that will be wildly unpopular with america. so the republicans have to eat all of that negativity, and pelosi has lost nothing

what is the difference between pelosi not agreeing to any deal, or agreeing to the 1.8 and mitch turning it down? she's in the exact same place either way


It was never gonna be the first one. The nikka who calls himself the grim reaper and told everyone we ain't doing another round of stimulus kept his promise. If you gonna take Pelosi to task over anything it's making a statement she didn't hold to regarding the SC nomination. Otherwise all smoke goes to the limp dikk in the senate who can't do anything right and only has his position because of donation amount and not effectively working for our intrest.

fukk Chuck Shumer. Nancy did what she needed to do and has been making her case no matter how wrong or right it is. I blame the Senate on both chambers for fukking this up. Shumer has done literally nothing in the minority to advance dem intrest. He isn't savy, and needs to get the fukk out the way for Liz Warren or someone with some balls to pull tricks I'm sure the pubs will try if they hit the minority.
 

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It was never gonna be the first one. The nikka who calls himself the grim reaper and told everyone we ain't doing another round of stimulus kept his promise. If you gonna take Pelosi to task over anything it's making a statement she didn't hold to regarding the SC nomination. Otherwise all smoke goes to the limp dikk in the senate who can't do anything right and only has his position because of donation amount and not effectively working for our intrest.

fukk Chuck Shumer. Nancy did what she needed to do and has been making her case no matter how wrong or right it is. I blame the Senate on both chambers for fukking this up. Shumer has done literally nothing in the minority to advance dem intrest. He isn't savy, and needs to get the fukk out the way for Liz Warren or someone with some balls to pull tricks I'm sure the pubs will try if they hit the minority.
and i see that as a positive. the democrats get to spend the week before the election reminding america that mitch mconnell wont sign off on 1200 dollar checks for everyone. they spend the week before the election reminding america that the senate/republicans dont give a fukk about americans and wont hand out free money

seems like basic politics/common sense :dahell:
 

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still afraid to answer :laff:

i dont know how else im supposed to respond. if my idea sucks that pelosi takes the 1.9 from mnuchin, why cant you post a better idea? what am i missing here?

am i right that she should take it? or do you have a better idea?
This is how I know you're just posting to be posting.

Myself and multiple other people have explained to you the best possible deal for the American people is to take her chances with a Biden WH and potentially a flipped Senate.
 
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