Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

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Average Joe doesn't care about the corporate liability shield.

Largely, in part, because the average Joe can't afford an attorney, especially when they're out of work during a pandemic.

This is 101 late stage capitalism stuff. :mjlol:
exactly, and since they dont care, if dems turn it down, it makes THEM look bad


mitch really is a cunning fella
 

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I’m glad some of you brehs are optimistic about republicans getting blamed if this goes nowhere but I guess I’m confused about where that optimism comes from. They’ll just blame democrats as usual and conservatives will fall right back in line (as usual). I hope I’m wrong but we’ve been watching these people vote against their economic interests for decades, $2k isn’t gonna change that even if trump is the one blustering about it.

You guys must be looking at it from an angle that I’m not seeing.
 

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It's crazy to see this play out. I'm looking at this half empty because of Trump's empty promises, posturing, and reshaping the Republican party. The only thing I'm hoping for is that he pushes for the $2K based on maybe him getting more donations.
Trump likes spending money that isn’t his.

As long as he gets credit for it. Stimulus check with his name on it. Missile sales to his creditor foreign nations. The wall.

Normal government spending is what he rails against.
 

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Trump wants Section 230 repealed, how soon everyone forgets how transactional he is. Doubtful that checks get amended from $600 to $2000. But he just helped the Dem Senate race in GA tremendously with this bungling.

We'll also see the official start of the MAGA vs. GOP civil war because of this.
 

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I’m glad some of you brehs are optimistic about republicans getting blamed if this goes nowhere but I guess I’m confused about where that optimism comes from. They’ll just blame democrats as usual and conservatives will fall right back in line (as usual). I hope I’m wrong but we’ve been watching these people vote against their economic interests for decades, $2k isn’t gonna change that even if trump is the one blustering about it.

You guys must be looking at it from an angle that I’m not seeing.

its exceedingly more likely for senate repubs to get blamed with all dems and the republican president is against them
 
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Trump wants Section 230 repealed, how soon everyone forgets how transactional he is. Doubtful that checks get amended from $600 to $2000. But he just helped the Dem Senate race in GA tremendously with this bungling.

We'll also see the official start of the MAGA vs. GOP civil war because of this.
Yeah I'm not hopeful on the more money part, im extremely optimistic that Trump just gave the GOP a taste of their own divisive medicine. MAGA just follows orders so if Moscow Mitch kills this they will absolutely blame him.


The concern trolls in this thread :dead:
 

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I’m glad some of you brehs are optimistic about republicans getting blamed if this goes nowhere but I guess I’m confused about where that optimism comes from. They’ll just blame democrats as usual and conservatives will fall right back in line (as usual). I hope I’m wrong but we’ve been watching these people vote against their economic interests for decades, $2k isn’t gonna change that even if trump is the one blustering about it.

You guys must be looking at it from an angle that I’m not seeing.
fukk that :yeshrug: the president said we should do 2k checks and the democrats agreed with him. and it was trumps idea to stall for this; NOT the democrats. trump might get the blame himself

im quicker to blame the dems more than anyone in here, and even im not seeing how you guys are making that one happen :dead:
 

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I’m glad some of you brehs are optimistic about republicans getting blamed if this goes nowhere but I guess I’m confused about where that optimism comes from. They’ll just blame democrats as usual and conservatives will fall right back in line (as usual). I hope I’m wrong but we’ve been watching these people vote against their economic interests for decades, $2k isn’t gonna change that even if trump is the one blustering about it.

You guys must be looking at it from an angle that I’m not seeing.
Why do you guys care which side the internet assigns blame to?! Step outside your house, nobody cares.
 
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I’m glad some of you brehs are optimistic about republicans getting blamed if this goes nowhere but I guess I’m confused about where that optimism comes from. They’ll just blame democrats as usual and conservatives will fall right back in line (as usual). I hope I’m wrong but we’ve been watching these people vote against their economic interests for decades, $2k isn’t gonna change that even if trump is the one blustering about it.

You guys must be looking at it from an angle that I’m not seeing.

The main reason why Dems won’t get blamed is

1) Trump asked for “pork” from the spending bill to get removed while adding 1400 bucks to the checks, so any attempt at adding anything else (such as a liability shield) will looked at as another game Washington plays. Dems aren’t asking for any other changes.

In fact, Dem messaging should be “2 Grand for every American, no ifs, ands or buts”. And then it’s time for fear-mongering. “They want you to go back to work without the vaccine, while they get it, with a new strain coming and then if you get sick because your job doesn’t want to take precautions to keep you safe.... you have no recourse. They think your life is worth $1400?”

2) McConnell should have never forced the bills together. Now the messaging is that this is his deal, and everyone else is demanding better at this point (No matter how misguided the spending bill anger is). If he doesn’t budge, they lose in GA (Remember, both Dem campaigns have been careful to not tie the Republican candidates to Trump but to tie them to McConnell). This is going to hang around his neck forever.

3) They have to get Trump voters out to have a chance at winning. Mitch lives to make both sides look bad so that he gets what he wants AND can maintain power by any margin. He only relents if it puts him in danger to carry out his deeds. He’s kept Trump to heel to this point, but turning on him angered his supporters and now Trump realizes he’s been abandoned and he could have been a wild card all along. (What if he stopped nominating judges to get border wall funding? What if he refused to sign anything Mitch wanted to obtain leverage?) It’s too late to save himself, but what does he when he doesn’t perceive loyalty?
 

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Why do you guys care which side the internet assigns blame to?! Step outside your house, nobody cares.

nah this is more than the internet. trump proposing 2k instead of 600 will reach the ears of main street and if it doesnt happen main street is going to wig out
 

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nah this is more than the internet. trump proposing 2k instead of 600 will reach the ears of main street and if it doesnt happen main street is going to wig out
Right, and they most certainly won't say "The democratic party is responsible for us not getting $2000 checks because of _________"
 
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