Stop Bernie-Splaining to Black Voters

[LurkMoar]

This is a frustratingly oversimplified way of viewing the world, and none of the points you are making have anything to do with the specific policy issues of this election aside from the criminal justice system. You aired out your personal grievance about the world, but provided no facts to support and you just stated your conclusions as if they are facts. Look, I have spoken on everything here from race to class to europe vs. the US, etc. These are not issues that can be covered in one post and in the end all you ended up doing was making excuses for how the world is.

This is why Sanders fans go off on people, your entire spiel is "that's not the way the world works." The past 8 years are not how the US government is supposed to function but Republicans did not give a fukk. We just saw a leftist elected in Canada, we are watching that movement in the UK, and all over. "There will always be winners and loser." And who gets to decide the losers? Slaves were once losers. Women not being able to vote, etc. If your compelling argument is to be stagnant because the world is a fukked up place then you really have no business trying to convince anyone of anything, that is not a policy or an ideology that is the dressed up words of a quitter.

Cant the same be said of your cool-aid pumping self? Bernie supporters don't want to admit that the only socialist country that works according to the model is Norway with a population of 5 million people and a massive oil reserve that allows the government to pay for everything.

Bernies policies don't even remotely make sense economically, he wants to pay for college by by taxing wall street speculation? so what happens when there's less speculation because of taxation? because that's what behavioral taxes do they change behavior. How we gon pay for free college then? what about everyone who already took loans? are they fukked?

15 dollar minimum wage? Every economist agrees there will be a loss of jobs for low skill workers, this is a fact. Now who gets fired first? Fred or Jamal? Exactly.

Blacks dont need sunshine pumpers promising us bullshyt thats not gona work, socialism only works in certain circumstances. Also if your a cac then just ignore this

 

[wire28]

You keep stating your opinions as facts .

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irony alarm is blaring right now.

That's all you've been doing to get me from even giving Hillary an honest look even though I say I prefer Bernie.

I didn't realize BLM encompassed all the problems of black people.

You sound like a sanders die hard because you are. Or else you wouldn't have a problem with people disagreeing with you. And you wouldn't keep trying to convince them

 

[Exit9NJturnpike]

I really don't get the love for Hillary, bytch is hawk and a fraud. I fukking hate politics, but Grayson and Bernie always seemed authentic to me. Same sheep that was hoodwinked by Obama will probably vote for Hillary. Seeing old black c00ns falling for the okie doke is cringe worthy.

 

[CHL]

This is a frustratingly oversimplified way of viewing the world, and none of the points you are making have anything to do with the specific policy issues of this election aside from the criminal justice system. You aired out your personal grievance about the world, but provided no facts to support and you just stated your conclusions as if they are facts. Look, I have spoken on everything here from race to class to europe vs. the US, etc. These are not issues that can be covered in one post and in the end all you ended up doing was making excuses for how the world is.

This is why Sanders fans go off on people, your entire spiel is "that's not the way the world works." The past 8 years are not how the US government is supposed to function but Republicans did not give a fukk. We just saw a leftist elected in Canada, we are watching that movement in the UK, and all over. "There will always be winners and loser." And who gets to decide the losers? Slaves were once losers. Women not being able to vote, etc. If your compelling argument is to be stagnant because the world is a fukked up place then you really have no business trying to convince anyone of anything, that is not a policy or an ideology that is the dressed up words of a quitter.

 

[Rarebird77]

This can be said about most Americans people. Blow's point is right. They acting like we worse and we not. Bernie simply said "(Blacks) don't know me yet." And his supporters (and some of his detractors) ran with it as Blacks are ignorant of politics.

Lord knows I love Charles Blow but I think he jumped the shark with this commentary.

It's called campaigning. Bernie has to be explained to many black voters because they simply don't know him like they do Hillary Clinton.

I understand Blow has to shill for NY Times that endorsed Clinton but seriously, his oped made no sense to me. I don't get what he's trying to criticize.

 

[teacher]

Any candidate not named Trump or Sanders is Guaranteed business as usual... the former 2 MIGHT cause vibrations....if Sanders wins the nom I go Sanders if it's Hillary vs Trump I'm going Trump IMHO

 

[RickyGQ]

Lord knows I love Charles Blow but I think he jumped the shark with this commentary.

It's called campaigning. Bernie has to be explained to many black voters because they simply don't know him like they do Hillary Clinton.

I understand Blow has to shill for NY Times that endorsed Clinton but seriously, his oped made no sense to me. I don't get what he's trying to criticize.

His point is that Sanders supporters are OD though, and they ARE. I see black people who actually kinda fukk with Sanders catch shyt on Twitter just for saying something they don't like about him.

shyt reminds me of this Patrice joke:


If white people would just relax, black people would catch up. But them acting all high and mighty makes people not wanna fukk with Bernie just cause of his supporters.

 

[GunRanger]

Bernie is like Ron Paul. I just wish young republicans would have caught on like this.

 

[teacher]

Bernie is like Ron Paul. I just wish young republicans would have caught on like this.

except Ron Paul is a racist

 

[David_TheMan]

except Ron Paul is a racist

Actually he isn't a racist.

Its funny though, you out here brainwashed by these parties, and don't even realize Bernie Sanders is a major supporter of the racist state of Israel, that was fukking tattooing black Israelis, trying to sterlize them, and grouping them in ghettos and periodically destroying those ghettos. We don't even have to get into their racism against palestianians and the genocide they are actively perpetrating now.

 

[teacher]

Actually he isn't a racist.

Its funny though, you out here brainwashed by these parties, and don't even realize Bernie Sanders is a major supporter of the racist state of Israel, that was fukking tattooing black Israelis, trying to sterlize them, and grouping them in ghettos and periodically destroying those ghettos. We don't even have to get into their racism against palestianians and the genocide they are actively perpetrating now.

Honestly I'm more worried about America then what happens in Israel Ron Paul would be ok with Jim Crow laws being re-enforced if the state voted for it....The fed shouldn't intervene because that's big government blah blah blah non sense

 

[David_TheMan]

Honestly I'm more worried about America then what happens in Israel Ron Paul would be ok with Jim Crow laws being re-enforced if the state voted for it....The fed shouldn't intervene because that's big government blah blah blah non sense

aCtually Ron Paul was against Jim Crow because it was explicitly a violation of the US Constitution, he has openly said they were clearly illegal.
My point wasn't about if you cared about Israel by the way, its about your ignorance to the true racist.
Bernie Sanders is a jew who supports zionism, which is inherently racist, and the Jewish state of Israel which practices racism, yet you ignore this and talk about Ron Paul as being a racist when it clearly isn't true.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

If Obama had kept his first-term promise to invest in infrastructure, and provided training, jobs, and unionization to minorities, particularly at-risk, then by this time you would've had a new middle class like with FDR. Brehs would've been running their own businesses in the private sector and owning homes. They would've become a newly invigorated tax base that could become a strong voting bloc.

A Major Infrastructure Bill Clears Congress

The House and Senate send President Obama the largest transportation package in more than a decade, costing $305 billion over five years.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

John Lewis just came out on Bernie's Civil Rights Record:

"I never saw him" - John Lewis

Now those same Bernie supporters trying to tell Blacks what's best for them are taking trash about John Lewis. LOL.

The video of the CBC PAC giving Bernie that work was

John Lewis clarifies comments on Bernie Sanders


John Lewis has now backpeddled and "clarified" his comments from a few days ago.

“I was responding to a reporter’s question who asked me to assess Sen. Sanders’ civil rights record. I said that when I was leading and was at the center of pivotal actions within the Civil Rights Movement, I did not meet Sen. Bernie Sanders at any time. The fact that I did not meet him in the movement does not mean I doubted that Sen. Sanders participated in the Civil Rights Movement, neither was I attempting to disparage his activism. Thousands sacrificed in the 1960s whose names we will never know, and I have always given honor to their contribution.”

Lewis had also suggested that he had known Bill and Hillary Clinton during the civil rights era, a comment he also clarified. ”If you take a look at a transcript of my statement, you will find I did not say that I met Hillary and Bill Clinton when I was chairman of SNCC in the 1960s. My point was that when I was doing the work of civil rights, led the Voter Education Project and organized voter registration in the South in the 1970s, I did cross paths with Hillary and Bill Clinton in the field. They were working in politics, and Bill Clinton became attorney general of Arkansas in the 1970s as well. That began a relationship with them that has lasted until today,” Lewis said in the statement.

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The smear campaign from the Clinton camp that Bernie was claiming to be a different man in old photographs of the time, from which Time and the Washington Post each wrote hit pieces basically calling Bernie a liar...has also since been proven to be False. The photographer of the pictures says it was Bernie. Washington Post have yet to run any correction admitting their entire article is based on bogus info and their original article is still up.

Keep giving the Repub nutjobs more ammo for if you lose, Hillary. They still haven't let go of this pic

that you tried to smear your best friend Barry with in the 08 primaries.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Hillary is, once again, the "No We Can't" candidate.