Stop with the STEVE NASH disrespect

[Long Live The Kane]

Nope, he singlehandedly devalued the MVP in my eyes....got tier 1A love during that SSOL run, when in reality he was never on that level...most perceived disrespect is mostly just an acknowledgment of that...if it were just “oh Steve Nash was a top 10ish player in the league for couple year run” i don’t think there’d be any blowback...a similar description can be made for a Paul George level player today....but the hype around Nash, especially in real time when he was getting that back to back MVP, was the type of praise and reverence usually reserved for the best 1 or 2 players in the league...generational talents, the type of guys that almost always end up the centerpiece of multiple championship squads....Nash never even made a final....him getting accurately rated NOW after years of being grossly overrated isn’t disrespect

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How can you say his impact was reduced when he transformed the Suns the way he did?

He's a point guard. He's not supposed to impact the game through size and defense. That was what Amare, Joe and Shawn were there for.

From my experience I just think it's very difficult for a smaller player to take over a game to the extent that a larger player can. It's easy for a playoff defense to suffocate them and harder for them to make an impact on the defensive end. If you had to name the best players under 6'4" over the last 20 years, the ones who show up the most on All-NBA teams - Nash, CP3, Rose, Westbrook, Dame - what do you notice they all have in common? Not one of them ever made the Finals as a #1 option. The only guy I left out is the one who did it - AI - and he was a fukking unicorn and still only managed one Finals appearance.

I'm not saying shorter players are inferior or less skilled or anything. It's just that playoff basketball is that much more difficult for them. It's no accident that most people's all-time Top-10 lists don't include anyone under 6'5", even though 99% of folk who ever pick up a basketball are 6'5" or under.

 

[Bledswole]

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Nope, he singlehandedly devalued the MVP in my eyes....got tier 1A love during that SSOL run, when in reality he was never on that level...most perceived disrespect is mostly just an acknowledgment of that...if it were just “oh Steve Nash was a top 10ish player in the league for couple year run” i don’t think there’d be any blowback...a similar description can be made for a Paul George level player today....but the hype around Nash, especially in real time when he was getting that back to back MVP, was the type of praise and reverence usually reserved for the best 1 or 2 players in the league...generational talents, the type of guys that almost always end up the centerpiece of multiple championship squads....Nash never even made a final....him getting accurately rated NOW after years of being grossly overrated isn’t disrespect

He took a 23 win Suns team to 62 wins and the best record when he got there

Led the Suns to 54 wins the next without Amare all season

He never made a Finals cause the Spurs were in his way

Having 3 HOF players and a HOF coach will keep a lot people out the Finals. It's a lot of dudes who didn't eat cause of San Antonio. Just like MJ kept dudes from eating in the 90's, Magic/Bird in the 80's, etc

 

[Long Live The Kane]

He took a 23 win Suns team to 62 wins and the best record when he got there

Led the Suns to 54 wins the next without Amare all season

He never made a Finals cause the Spurs were in his way

Having 3 HOF players and a HOF coach will keep a lot people out the Finals. It's a lot of dudes who didn't eat cause of San Antonio. Just like MJ kept dudes from eating in the 90's, Magic/Bird in the 80's, etc

And Paul George led a Pacers team with Roy Hibbert as his next best player to a couple pretty regular season records before getting eliminated from the playoffs by Lebron led superteams, without a fraction of the knob slobbery

If he were getting PG level praise there’d be nothing to say here...but the hype train he got and the MVPs put him in conversations he quite frankly has no business being in. Taking him out of those conversations isn’t disrespect

he isn’t even the best player to get the D’Antoni juiced stats stimulus boost, harden is

 

[god shamgod]

Nash deserved both mvps , suns went from 29 wins to 62 his 1st year there #1 offense in the nba

next season lose stoudemire for 79 games 54 wins 3 seed #2 offense in the league

Anybody who thinks kobe or shaq should of won over Nash

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

And Paul George led a Pacers team with Roy Hibbert as his next best player to a couple pretty regular season records before getting eliminated from the playoffs by Lebron led superteams, without a fraction of the knob slobbery

If he were getting PG level praise there’d be nothing to say here...but the hype train he got and the MVPs put him in conversations he quite frankly has no business being in. Taking him out of those conversations isn’t disrespect

Paul George aint never been on no fukkin Steve Nash level of course aint nobody gonna be talking him up like a fukking 2 time MVP

PG didn't do shyt in Indy comparable to what Nash did in Phoenix, fukk outta here talking about some Paul George

Nash won 62 games in a loaded Western Conference with virtually the same roster than won 29 before. Couple a "pretty" records isn't the best fukking team in the league. Nash was dominant, PG wasn't that

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Paul George aint never been on no fukkin Steve Nash level of course aint nobody gonna be talking him up like a fukking 2 time MVP

PG didn't do shyt in Indy comparable to what Nash did in Phoenix, fukk outta here talking about some Paul George

Nash won 62 games in a loaded Western Conference with virtually the same roster than won 29 before. Couple a "pretty" records isn't the best fukking team in the league. Nash was dominant, PG wasn't that

The dominance of Steve Nash

PG is a all nba defensive first team level player and a solid scorer, and a year removed from being a legit MVP candidate ...Nash is closer to PG’s level than he is to Magic or Curry...

this is a perfect example of using those two paper MVPs to make him into something he wasn’t

 

[Piff Huxtable]

nah fukk him

to this day I still believe his 05 MVP is the direct result of the mid-00s hiphop backlash in the NBA

also the closest he came to winning a ring was as 3rd option on the 03 Mavs behind Dirk & Finley

 

[Megadeus]

Stockton gets way more respect than Nash it seems, despite never winning MVP honors or championships

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

2 time MVP*

*04-05 MVP should have gone to Kevin Garnett
*05-06 MVP should have gone to Lebron James or Kobe Bryant.

I see nothing has changed around here

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Nash deserved both mvps , suns went from 29 wins to 62 his 1st year there #1 offense in the nba

next season lose stoudemire for 79 games 54 wins 3 seed #2 offense in the league

Anybody who thinks kobe or shaq should of won over Nash

Kobe has a very good argument but not Shaq honestly.

 

[Remote]

I see nothing has changed around here

Likewise.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Likewise.

Pure delusion

 

[1thouwow]

I’ve grown up watching him play. He don’t deserve those mvps. And I don’t give a damn about him leading the league in assist, especially back then