straight black men are being silenced

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

You're not using any data.
Just anecdotal goalpost moving...name dropping to assert your position (inaccurately), and wildly shifting your position. I'm good, "breh".
You're literally reaching all around the world and conflating things, plus misrepresenting folks views by applying them to a new situation they aren't part of. Ignored.

 

[Lotsford]

You're not using any data.
Just anecdotal goalpost moving...name dropping to assert your position (inaccurately), and wildly shifting your position. I'm good, "breh".
You're literally reaching all around the world and conflating things, plus misrepresenting folks views by applying them to a new situation they aren't part of. Ignored.

I've posted data this entire time. You are willfully ignoring the data.

As of 2015 they marry out at a rate of 34%. Asian men 24%. They consider Asian men "herbivore men" and idealize white men in a true sense. Black women were 12%, that's about 3 times less. That is a much better example of a group of women who blatantly care nothing about their men or their race. Black women have not displayed this level of hypergamy eventhough they outperform black men academically and aren't the main victims of school to prison pipelines. Wenches and swirlers reading books shouldn't be the indicator of this.

As far as voting statistics you're probably right about voting a black woman over a black man that's not saying anything. The men would vote for the men too. Also a black man has already been president. But white women's support of Trump over Clinton has major external factors at play. The West is going through a period of right wing resurgence. White women voting for Trump is them upholding their status as white women. America was also the most barbaric form of slavery and racism in the West. White nationalism had a stronger pull than feminism this election. And that doesn't account for Hillary being a shyt candidate altogether. Even then it was a 53% majority Trump. When Clinton ran against Obama in the 2008 primaries, black women voted for Clinton 15% and black men 12%, smallest gender gap between any of the races.

There is a clear gender gap in support of Clinton in these data. White
women were more likely than white men to vote for Clinton (61% vs.
49%), and Latinas were more likely than Latino males to vote for her
(66% vs. 56%). There was a much smaller gender gap in support for
Clinton among blacks (12% of males vs. 15% of females).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjASegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw0jlvOUoB883xJ1vDrH_xR8



Black women are earning more college degrees, but that alone won’t close race gaps

Education rates predict likely hood of interracial marriage. Black women outperform black men academically yet black men marry outside of the race 2x more than black women at a rate of 24%.

 

[Roid Jones]

What’s stopping you from creating one?

Just like other social media warriors he feels by posting on a forum he has done his part

 

[Hoodoo Child]

cacs won...they got nikkas fighting with each other over who's more oppressed and misrepresented in white media

pack it up folks

Spoiler

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Black Men should definitely start an organization that will care for Black Men in these specific ways

Education
Credit
Investments
Tax law

Vocational Training
White collar
Blue collar
Trades

The goal would be to put each man exactly where they need to be for their maximum paycheck.

If one dude peaks out at 'truck driver' and another can make his way to 'accountant' that's all fine. Find out where the Breh can thrive and give him the tools to get there.

Then - let's say if we can get 100% of Black Men into at least decent jobs - people will look at Black Men differently than they do now. Cause all Black Men will have a decent job and work hard.

Yes. People do say things that aren't true about us.

But some shyt people say about us is true. So if we are honest with ourselves and do the gut check and get our shyt together, we could then fix whatever problems that we do genuinely have.

And ignore the lies being told. At least until we get it all the way together concerning our actual internal issues.

TLDR: the solutions to all our serious problems are within.

(Whatever the thread title is. We not doing what we sposed and we are suffering because of it. That's why you're 'supposed' to do certain things. Cause if you don't your shyt is going to be fukced up.)

 

[Gravity]

What is "all the shyt" I'm saying about gay acceptance? All I said was the persecution of gays and murder of trans women was wrong. That's where it stops. I didn't say Thugger wearing dresses is cool, I didn't say we need more gay TV shows. None of that.

I don’t think that gays are persecuted at this point. Society prefers black gays over black heterosexuals, especially when it comes to black males. I actually think that we are too approving of homosexuality now. We should do more to push back on the agenda to promote homosexuality in my opinion.

I don’t think that anyone should be murdered unjustly, but let’s be honest about why some of these trans people are being murdered. It’s not all the result of people just killing trans folk out of hate. Some of these murders are a result of people being fooled and feeling like they’ve been taken advantage of by trans people. Some of this is the result of lgbt and their supporters forcing things on people. For instance, they’re now saying that the trans people don’t have to let potential partners know that they’re trans. When you’re out here deceiving people and taking their personal choices away from them, you’re putting yourself in danger. The downlow tranny lifestyle is inherently dangerous and that’s just a fact of life.

It would still be lower than Asian women. IR standards are correlated with education not beauty standards. Black women could go shack up with Billy Joe or white men in liberal circles who are all about that. But black women routinely choose black men more than Asian women choose their men. I do not believe that's just because "no white man will marry them." The liberal ass school I go to, seeing interracial couples semi frequently, they could if they wanted to as much as Asian women or black men.

This is debatable because black women aren’t desired by white men like Asian women are. IR standards are rooted in racial politics just like everything else. It’s not about education. We’ve seen all the articles, tv specials, etc about how so many “educated” black women are single and it’s not because they’re turning down white men waiting on black men. It’s just a lie to manipulate the IR stats to try and pretend as if they illustrate loyalty from black women. You have to ignore the reality that we’re living in. A very small percentage of black women even claim to be against IR and whenever a famous black woman is reported to be involved with a white man she’s generally praised and wished well by other black women.

I like how you changed the comparison from black women vs white women to black women vs Asian women.

I still fail go see collectively where the loyalty hasn't been there. If they were unloyal and hated black men so much they would have voted Hilary over Obama in the 2008 primary.

Now you’re just being silly. Like Michelle wasn’t a big part of Obama’s appeal to black women. Like if Obama had Becky on his arm he would’ve even had a shot with black women. Picking Obama over Hillary wasn’t a sign of loyalty to black men. You sound like a white liberal claiming that they can’t be racist because they voted for Obama.

Black feminism and the black feminist mentality that’s the default ideology of black women is the epitome of disloyalty to black men. Black women have been disloyal to black men for so long that it’s accepted and expected. We’ve been so brainwashed by white liberalism that we’ve even got black fathers teach our daughters to be on that feminist independent woman bullshyt.

 

[Dominicansbelit]

i think its all money

when u become rich im pretty sure u care less about where u come from cuz u never see it as often

all you see is full stomachs

and "home" is a huge obstacle now

the solution is always the same :/

 

[Kerkum]

No, it means you put your behavioral group before your race; alignment with folks who are only trying to get a better seat at the table.
Since you're here, tell us all about:
Bug Parties
Underage "trade"
and other things that y'all do that you think folks aren't aware of...since we're generalizing with a broad stroke brush.
Who started the old "dl" witch hunt? The same people you think have your back because you both black and may enjoy the company of men? Smarten up and get over being called mean names.

I NEVER put my sexuality before my blackness. There you go putting words in my mouth. I have always stated (even on this site) I am black first and nothing else. I don’t care about being gay but at the same time I still can’t help that I am gay

 

[Dominicansbelit]

I NEVER put my sexuality before my blackness. There you go putting words in my mouth. I have always stated (even on this site) I am black first and nothing else. I don’t care about being gay but at the same time I still can’t help that I am gay

sorry bro

you're not jesus

sex always comes first then you rationalize

 

[Lotsford]

I don’t think that gays are persecuted at this point. Society prefers black gays over black heterosexuals, especially when it comes to black males. I actually think that we are too approving of homosexuality now. We should do more to push back on the agenda to promote homosexuality in my opinion.

I don’t think that anyone should be murdered unjustly, but let’s be honest about why some of these trans people are being murdered. It’s not all the result of people just killing trans folk out of hate. Some of these murders are a result of people being fooled and feeling like they’ve been taken advantage of by trans people. Some of this is the result of lgbt and their supporters forcing things on people. For instance, they’re now saying that the trans people don’t have to let potential partners know that they’re trans. When you’re out here deceiving people and taking their personal choices away from them, you’re putting yourself in danger. The downlow tranny lifestyle is inherently dangerous and that’s just a fact of life.
This is debatable because black women aren’t desired by white men like Asian women are. IR standards are rooted in racial politics just like everything else. It’s not about education. We’ve seen all the articles, tv specials, etc about how so many “educated” black women are single and it’s not because they’re turning down white men waiting on black men. It’s just a lie to manipulate the IR stats to try and pretend as if they illustrate loyalty from black women. You have to ignore the reality that we’re living in. A very small percentage of black women even claim to be against IR and whenever a famous black woman is reported to be involved with a white man she’s generally praised and wished well by other black women.

I like how you changed the comparison from black women vs white women to black women vs Asian women.

Now you’re just being silly. Like Michelle wasn’t a big part of Obama’s appeal to black women. Like if Obama had Becky on his arm he would’ve even had a shot with black women. Picking Obama over Hillary wasn’t a sign of loyalty to black men. You sound like a white liberal claiming that they can’t be racist because they voted for Obama.

Black feminism and the black feminist mentality that’s the default ideology of black women is the epitome of disloyalty to black men. Black women have been disloyal to black men for so long that it’s accepted and expected. We’ve been so brainwashed by white liberalism that we’ve even got black fathers teach our daughters to be on that feminist independent woman bullshyt.

Regardless of why they're getting killed (I believe mostly it's because of prostitution) their deaths are the vector trans activism has used to push a narrative. So if dudes keep "accidently" picking up tranny's then killing them when they "find out" (or the tranny threatens to tell) then this is the situation you make of yourself. Recodnize you live in Western America, not a black majority country where it wouldn't get as much mainstream backlash.

Also, if male heterosexual was so much under attack, the overwhelming majority of black women wouldn't have defended Qinuwine when the transwoman tried to kiss him on Celebrity Big Brother. My timeline blew up in support of him and calling the tranny a sexual assulter, how anyone can say no because of their reason regardless, etc. Meanwhile, the white trans movement literally believes a lesbian female is transphobic for not sleeping with a pre-op tranny if they say they're lesbian.


I've compared Asian/Black women from the jump. My comparison in my first post was that Asian women are the perfect example of hypergamy in the West, it's not a shift. Comparing statistics to white women makes much less sense considering America is a white society.

Black women could have voted their gender, or they could have voted their race. The fact that they showed racial ingroup loyalty and a smaller gender disparity than any other racial group polled is not data you just throw out.

The thing is none of the data points in that direction of female disloyalty. I've bought all data to support my point. What is the evidence backing the idea black women as a collective have always betrayed men? LSA posts? Wenching books? I see a PAWG thread on here multiple times a week.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I NEVER put my sexuality before my blackness. There you go putting words in my mouth. I have always stated (even on this site) I am black first and nothing else. I don’t care about being gay but at the same time I still can’t help that I am gay

Well good for you, just know you're being demonized by the same people you THINK are riding for you.
As far as other folks opinions, oh well.
We're not discussing your personal choices or whether or not you can help them. I know you won't intervene when you see the foul shyt, you'll paint yourself as a victim and ignore it...until it's too late and you see what's going on.
Peace.

 

[Gravity]

Regardless of why they're getting killed (I believe mostly it's because of prostitution) their deaths are the vector trans activism has used to push a narrative. So if dudes keep "accidently" picking up tranny's then killing them when they "find out" (or the tranny threatens to tell) then this is the situation you make of yourself. Recodnize you live in Western America, not a black majority country where it wouldn't get as much mainstream backlash.

My point wasn’t to defend those who murder black trannies, my point was that their murders aren’t all the result of people hating trans just for being trans.

Also, if male heterosexual was so much under attack, the overwhelming majority of black women wouldn't have defended Qinuwine when the transwoman tried to kiss him on Celebrity Big Brother. My timeline blew up in support of him and calling the tranny a sexual assulter, how anyone can say no because of their reason regardless, etc. Meanwhile, the white trans movement literally believes a lesbian female is transphobic for not sleeping with a pre-op tranny if they say they're lesbian.

So your twitter timeline reaction to the ginuwine thing is proof that there isn’t an attack on straight black men? You think this flies as an argument?

I've compared Asian/Black women from the jump. My comparison in my first post was that Asian women are the perfect example of hypergamy in the West, it's not a shift. Comparing statistics to white women makes much less sense considering America is a white society.

The fact that black women aren’t desired by white men anywhere near as much as Asian women are makes your comparison nonsensical. If black women were as desired by white men as Asian women are black women’s IR rates would be much higher.

Black women could have voted their gender, or they could have voted their race. The fact that they showed racial ingroup loyalty and a smaller gender disparity than any other racial group polled is not data you just throw out.

I haven’t thrown anything out I’m just willing to make the same leap you are. Black women voting for Obama wasn’t a testament to their loyalty to black men. That’s a dishonest argument. Like I said, if obama had a white woman on his arm instead of Michelle they wouldn’t have voted for him. The point tbatbyoure trying to make here isn’t valid.

The thing is none of the data points in that direction of female disloyalty. I've bought all data to support my point. What is the evidence backing the idea black women as a collective have always betrayed men? LSA posts? Wenching books? I see a PAWG thread on here multiple times a week.

What data? You haven’t produced any data. IR stats don’t support your point. That little anecdote about the reaction to ginuwine on your timeline doesn’t prove your point either.

fukk a “data point”, I gave you an entire movement that was literally founded on black women pledging their disloyalty to black men. Black feminism is an ideology and movement about black women separating themselves and their cause from black men. It was birthed in the middle of the black power movements and ultimately has been used ever since to sabotage unity between black men and women. Wether it’s books like Michele Wallace - Wikipedia

from 40 years ago or articles like A Woman's Response To 'Straight Black Men Are The White People Of Black People'

that that are produced routinely in the present, the rhetoric of black feminism has always been anti-black male.

 

[Kerkum]

Well good for you, just know you're being demonized by the same people you THINK are riding for you.
As far as other folks opinions, oh well.
We're not discussing your personal choices or whether or not you can help them. I know you won't intervene when you see the foul shyt, you'll paint yourself as a victim and ignore it...until it's too late and you see what's going on.
Peace.

I’ll paint myself as a victim? Okay, there you go putting more words in my mouth. This just all comes down to nikkas like you needing someone to oppress. So you’ll do it to the punks, sissies, dikes, fakkits etc. therefore you’ll always have someone beneath you to shyt on. If all gay dudes came right out and said we don’t care about being gay, we want to overthrow white supremacy...that wouldn’t matter to you cause your goal is to mistreat and belittle other people. You use this whole “gays are bad people, they tear apart the black community” as a guide to justify your hate. Because you have me, a black gay man, saying I stand with team black empowerment. Yet you still want hate and conflict. You’re pathetic

 

[godkiller]

black women and blacks gays always complain about being silenced, but all of the major so called black online media cater to them and there are thousands of articles speaking for them and bashing the straight black male. However I never see articles rebutting any these points. I never hear anyone speaking for the average blue collar black male just trying to survive. Any straight black male who tries to speak from their point of view is shouted down and insulted. we need an alt black movement. there is more popular support for black trannies and they are less than 1% of the black population.

Straight black men have to publish articled against this anti blackness. We can't blame anyone but ourselves. No people on Earth have ever thrived listening to women and gays. Black feminism is just c00nery. It had never achieved anything but antiblackness.

 

[Nature's Fury]

Well good for you, just know you're being demonized by the same people you THINK are riding for you.
As far as other folks opinions, oh well.
We're not discussing your personal choices or whether or not you can help them. I know you won't intervene when you see the foul shyt, you'll paint yourself as a victim and ignore it...until it's too late and you see what's going on.
Peace.

are you speaking of the straight black "leaders" who are supposed to be for all black people while calling black LGBTers fakkits or something else???