Strictly from a Production standpoint, the 2000s are the Golden Age of Hip-Hop

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No disrespect to Neptunes, but Grindin' is a basic ass beat, and should not be one to display for this thread. (GOAT freestyle fukkaround beat tho)
 
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90's wins by default and I'll explain why:

coming into the 90's you had:


1) the break beats sample which consisted of a) fast break beats (such as Around The Way Girl by LL Cool J and U Cant Touch This by Hammer...Salt N Pepa also had a few hits that were fast break beats) and b) the normal breakbeats (which consisted of songs like LL's Booming System and Heavy D's Is It Good To You) The breakbeat sound was the staple of Hip Hop coming into the 90's.

2) The Jazz era: the short lived moment when Hip Hop was into jazz from Trive Called Quest to Brand New Heavies to Digable Planets and the nail put in the coffin by Guru

3) Boom Bap the era of the early 90's when the dirty drums and lo fi was the norm, this would be the staple sound for underground NYC Hip Hop

4) The funk sample era which was lead by the likes of EPMD, DJ Quik , Dr Dre and Outkast.....Now what Dr Dre did was he took the funk and made it dark while adding all those whistles making a whole different sub division called G Funk..

5) The Bass era: lead by Miami but also seeping into the east coast Baltimore/Washington scene with its subdivision in Go Go


6) The Wu Tang sound: The Wu Tang sound was a mixture of Boom Bap and psychedelia/Trippyness


7) The Dark Era sound of the mid 90's - In the mid 90's as rappers leaned more toward dark lyrics there was this era of dark sounding music which consisted of Gravediggaz first album, Redmans Dare Iz A Darkside, Bone Thugs E 1999, Das Efx - Hold It Down , Mobb Deeps Inafamous/Hell On Earth, Gza Liquid Swords, Onyx - All We Got Iz Us, Geto Boys Ressurection and 2pacs Makeveli,


8) The Trackmasters sound - This was that R&B/Hip Hop fusion radio friendly sound that was real popular towards the late 90's. The Mary J Bliges, Puffys, R Kellys, Will Smiths and Nas would benefit greatly from this sound. Jermaine Dupri's style was also similiar to what Trackmasters was doing.

9) The No Limit/Cash Money/36 Mafia cheap beats made into gold sound: This was when a lot of that new era southern music was emerging with those cheap but catchy sounding beats. Till this day I still say that when I first heard Jeezys TM101 production wise it sounded like something that woulda came out during No Limits prime

9) Screw music - No Explanation needed

10) The Timbaland sound - That futuristic bounce that would lead Hip Hop into the new millinium

11) The Neptunes sound: I used to call their original sound "Video game beats"......I will admit...This sound didnt really take off until the 2000's, never the less it started in the 90's


12) The Swizz sound: the sound that changed the whole NYC sound around in 1998 to a more bouncy type of go to sound

13) Dre Dre's Chronic 2 "Digital Sound": Dr Dre abandoned those G Funk whistles and introduced a whole new style for that Chronic 2 album which I believe was to counter the futuristic sounds made popular by the Neptunes and Timbaland. This was also the aftereffects of that "mushroom trippy" sound that new comer Eminem would come into the game with.



Now with all that said....once the year 2000 hit that year specifically was already a mixture of what was already being done in the late 90's. Soon after Hip Hop saw a lot of stagnation starting with that damn Chipmuck sample sound which was already done in the 90's but not to the point of overkill like we saw in the mid 2000's. Jay Z was the one who lead that chipmunk sound. Now keep in mind...The mid 2000's did have some next level production..Like for instance, Outkast without a doubt kept on improving production wise on levels like they never did in the 90's. Crunk also saw a nice lil moment in the early -mid 2000's...The 2000's also had Snap, auto tune, stadium World Music, and Trap Musik which for some reason is where Hip Hop has been stuck on for over a decade now(This decade is also dominated by that trippy R*Bish sound which is popular amongs the likes of Drake and The Weekknd)...Again....the 2000's was a good mixture of what was already being done in the 90's.........The 2000's was dope no dount but the variety wasnt as strong as it was in the 90's.
 
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Ron Fox said:
90's wins by default and I'll explain why:

coming into the 90's you had:


1) the break beats sample which consisted of a) fast break beats (such as Around The Way Girl by LL Cool J and U Cant Touch This by Hammer...Salt N Pepa also had a few hits that were fast break beats) and b) the normal breakbeats (which consisted of songs like LL's Booming System and Heavy D's Is It Good To You) The breakbeat sound was the staple of Hip Hop coming into the 90's.

2) The Jazz era: the short lived moment when Hip Hop was into jazz from Trive Called Quest to Brand New Heavies to Digable Planets and the nail put in the coffin by Guru

3) Boom Bap the era of the early 90's when the dirty drums and lo fi was the norm, this would be the staple sound for underground NYC Hip Hop

4) The funk sample era which was lead by the likes of EPMD, DJ Quik , Dr Dre and Outkast.....Now what Dr Dre did was he took the funk and made it dark while adding all those whistles making a whole different sub division called G Funk..

5) The Bass era: lead by Miami but also seeping into the east coast Baltimore/Washington scene with its subdivision in Go Go


6) The Wu Tang sound: The Wu Tang sound was a mixture of Boom Bap and psychedelia/Trippyness


7) The Dark Era sound of the mid 90's - In the mid 90's as rappers leaned more toward dark lyrics there was this era of dark sounding music which consisted of Gravediggaz first album, Redmans Dare Iz A Darkside, Bone Thugs E 1999, Das Efx - Hold It Down , Mobb Deeps Inafamous/Hell On Earth, Gza Liquid Swords, Onyx - All We Got Iz Us, Geto Boys Ressurection and 2pacs Makeveli,


8) The Trackmasters sound - This was that R&B/Hip Hop fusion radio friendly sound that was real popular towards the late 90's. The Mary J Bliges, Puffys, R Kellys, Will Smiths and Nas would benefit greatly from this sound. Jermaine Dupri's style was also similiar to what Trackmasters was doing.

9) The No Limit/Cash Money/36 Mafia cheap beats made into gold sound: This was when a lot of that new era southern music was emerging with those cheap but catchy sounding beats. Till this day I still say that when I first heard Jeezys TM101 production wise it sounded like something that woulda came out during No Limits prime

9) Screw music - No Explanation needed

10) The Timbaland sound - That futuristic bounce that would lead Hip Hop into the new millinium

11) The Neptunes sound: I used to call their original sound "Video game beats"......I will admit...This sound didnt really take off until the 2000's, never the less it started in the 90's


12) The Swizz sound: the sound that changed the whole NYC sound around in 1998 to a more bouncy type of go to sound

13) Dre Dre's Chronic 2 "Digital Sound": Dr Dre abandoned those G Funk whistles and introduced a whole new style for that Chronic 2 album which I believe was to counter the futuristic sounds made popular by the Neptunes and Timbaland. This was also the aftereffects of that "mushroom trippy" sound that new comer Eminem would come into the game with.



Now with all that said....once the year 2000 hit that year specifically was already a mixture of what was already being done in the late 90's. Soon after Hip Hop saw a lot of stagnation starting with that damn Chipmuck sample sound which was already done in the 90's but not to the point of overkill like we saw in the mid 2000's. Jay Z was the one who lead that chipmunk sound. Now keep in mind...The mid 2000's did have some next level production..Like for instance, Outkast without a doubt kept on improving production wise on levels like they never did in the 90's. Crunk also saw a nice lil moment in the early -mid 2000's...The 2000's also had Snap, stadium World Music, and Trap Musik which for some reason is where Hip Hop has been stuck on for over a decade now(This decade is also dominated by that trippy R*Bish sound which is popular amongs the likes of Drake and The Weekknd)...Again....the 2000's was a good mixture of what was already being done in the 90's.........The 2000's was dope no dount but the variety wasnt as strong as it was in the 90's.
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Agree with the conclusion but a lot of this seems overly simplistic.
 
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You mean the 90s right. Timbaland, Premo,Dre,Dilla, Qtip, Neptunes, OC, Storch,Swizz,Mannie,Nokio, Puff, Hit Factory..Kanye.. naw...the 90's set the blueprint for hiphop as we all know it...

The 00s ushered in the trap sound that was all. That's the only sound that was created in that era...
 
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lol @ the '80s getting ignored.

if youre not up on all the eras, then people shouldn't be voting & arguing over what eras were golden.

I hate rap sometimes. worst & laziest fans of all genres, except POP. but most of this chit is basically pop now anyway.
 
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Wacky D said:
lol @ the '80s getting ignored.

if youre not up on all the eras, then people shouldn't be voting & arguing over what eras were golden.

I hate rap sometimes. worst & laziest fans of all genres, except POP. but most of this chit is basically pop now anyway.
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Relish this opportunity to educate.


Post some amazing 80s production.
 
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