Suicidal people are so selfish it’s disgusting

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:ehh: I see where you're coming from

And I definitely see where you’re coming from. I don’t mean to be callous when I say “selfish” because in a good deal of cases they might not be in their right mind to know what is and isn’t selfish. Depression is one of the hardest illnesses to deal with imo. If you don’t have the proper conditions it can literally lead you to ending your own life. shyt like this being such a problem is a failure of society at large. Human beings shouldn’t be driven to killings themselves. We’re the only animals on this planet that allows this for our own and yet we consider ourselves civilized.

I just really really hope the ones that have a shred of themselves left will think to fight it rather than simply accept misery and death. I’m thankful I didn’t choose that path because life became much more beautiful. But on the other hand, my cousins and I still grieve for our cousin. None of us knew he even felt that way that’s what made it so much worse. Real shyt, I’m slightly emotional even thinking about it. At a moments notice, any one of us would’ve went to him and did what we could to help. But we never even got the chance. That shyt is fukked up. Won’t never sit right with me….
 

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Acting just like em :russ: I’m starting to believe Chicago, we got a cac secret invasion on here,
What nikka? All I’m saying it’s more variables than most folk think for someone wanting to do themselves harm. I’m good though.

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Misread, yeah these posters acting like cacs saying that dumb shyt
 
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I once believed suicide was selfish too. But I recall someone say those feeling suicidal feel the world would be better without them in it, hence them committing suicide.

Gave me a different perspective
 

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What nikka? All I’m saying it’s more variables than most folk think for someone wanting to do themselves harm. I’m good though.
I wasn’t even talking about you lol my shyt was directed at somebody else but bro, my older sister committed suicide, I had heart to heart talks with her, it literally over takes your mind, depression had my sister thinking that she was a burden on her husband, me and my mother, she looked me dead in the eye and told me that she is not worthy of being my sister, this is after 9 years of medical and mental help
 

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I wasn’t even talking about you lol my shyt was directed at somebody else but bro, my older sister committed suicide, I had heart to heart talks with her, it literally over takes your mind, depression had my sister thinking that she was a burden on her husband, me and my mother, she looked me dead in the eye and told me that she is not worthy of being my sister, this is after 9 years of medical and mental help
Peep the edit. I’m sorry to hear that breh. These cacs and nikkas on here are fools
 

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So it’s okay to acknowledge they’re not in their right mind, but it’s not okay to acknowledge that what they’re doing is selfish. Or shortsighted. The thoughtless remarks don’t work by your own admission but a take like this, one that has clearly gotten a rise an defense out of people is wrong? What’s the “right” way to get thru to them then?

Once again it’s not just about the people around them. That’s my fault for not fleshing out my thoughts better. In retrospect I probably would’ve added shortsighted or at least replaced with with “selfish”. There’s too much potential that life has to offer. I still don’t quite get the analogy though cause no matter your status, you’re still gonna face hardships. Regina King’s son was born and/or raised into a status of life we only dream of. We’re still here yet he’s gone. Maybe it’s a matter of how we approach and view burden and hardships. I’m a testament of the shift that can occur.
If people aren’t in their right mind, we usually do excuse their behavior. To take it to the extreme, do you blame mentally handicapped people for what they do? Do you blame someone with a 56 IQ for what they do? If I told you someone had cancer and didn’t want to go through chemo and said fukk it just take me, would you blame them? Call them selfish?

So why do you do it with someone who is clearly clinically depressed? Or has to take pills everyday forever to not be labeled crazy. I’m sure Regina’s son had a long history before this happened. I’m sure he wasn’t a normal person then his girl broke up with him so he said fukk it. He probably had a shrink, had medication, was getting help and it still didn’t matter.

Look at Kate Spade. Biiions that she mad and successful in her business. Her brain wasn’t right. Eminem tried to kill himself. Anything in his music ever say that this is a normal guy? Robin Williams was one the most loved people in the world. It doesn’t matter. Because something is off in their brain and tough talk and just get better is not a treatment plan
 

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I wasn’t even talking about you lol my shyt was directed at somebody else but bro, my older sister committed suicide, I had heart to heart talks with her, it literally over takes your mind, depression had my sister thinking that she was a burden on her husband, me and my mother, she looked me dead in the eye and told me that she is not worthy of being my sister, this is after 9 years of medical and mental help
Thank you for sharing this breh. My baby sis did the same thing. She felt like she wasn’t worth my folks having to drive her to the doc all the time. Paying all the medical bills. Seeing me and my brother seem “normal” but she’s 25 and gotta stay with my folks so they can take care of her. The night before we all sitting her room laughing and smiling and talking bout shyt. 5 days before Christmas.

As much as it fukking breaks my heart. I know she did that shyt to say “nah y’all have at it. Stop catering to me. I’ll see you next lifetime”

I would never blame her though. I’m so mad at her for not realizing what it would do. But I was never confused about her doing it for herself or not. Nobody deserves to be in that pain forever. If she had terminal cancer and did it, everybody would say “yea I understand” but because her brain was the one hurting, now she ain’t shyt.

People got some fukking nerve
 

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If they take pills to OD then it's fine. It's when their method fukks up other people that it becomes selfish. They don't think about the train driver or truck driver and how jumping in front of his vehicle will fukk them up and scar them mentally for the rest of their lives too.

I used to work somewhere where we had a lot of jumpers and that shyt can get gruesome. Strangely you do get used to it but the first few months after your first jumper is so fukked up.
 

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Interesting, something I've struggled with and debated on for a while now, personally and spiritually and in my work and life.

Were ancestors who committed suicide by jumping into the sea to not deal with slavery selfish?
How about people during 9/11 who saw the plane coming and jumped out of the high floors?
Samurai's who committed seppuku when they brought dishonor?

There are too many layers of this to just call it selfish. I work in social work with foster kids, many have severe cognitive delays and illnesses that truly prevent them or at least stagger them from living long productive, and happy lives. One person I work with has about 5 medications, he can take them and turn into a mute docile person, or not and have his Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and ADHD run loose. Guess what op, he is a foster kid, he was abandoned twice, he was not asked to be born.

No one asks to be born and have to endure work school work school taxes, retire die. As someone once stated, I think the more selfish act is people having kids when they are not prepared which is, I would say is 70% of the population. Yes, there are exceptions, but that's an exception, not the rule.



Inconveniencing people with why you are depressed (they will not understand or pretend too but then get tired of you complaining) Or living in agony as a human let alone a black man in society.

So I guess the options are: "man up " and the "tough" through it and die of a heart attack or stroke at 40, turn to religion where the saving grace and comfort in Christ can offer you salvation and eternal life, or just end the suffering in your brain and that voice in your head and the dread of waking up every day.
 

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Okay
IMO its only seflish if u have kids, especially young ones.

otherwise ppl should be allowed to do whatever they want to do. Especially since they were literally put in a situation (existence) without their signed consent

So if anything, placing the BURDEN OF EXISTENCE on someone's shoulders without asking them if it is okay to do is so first = The REAL Selfish act

Coli parents ain't ready for that one though


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IMO its only seflish if u have kids, especially young ones.

otherwise ppl should be allowed to do whatever they want to do. Especially since they were literally put in a situation (existence) without their signed consent

So if anything, placing the BURDEN OF EXISTENCE on someone's shoulders without asking them if it is okay to do is so first = The REAL Selfish act

Coli parents ain't ready for that one though


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I always say having children is one of the most selfish, egotistical acts

not saying i wont have children but i can admit its selfish
 
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