T.I. Expeditiously Goes To The Gynecologist Every Year With Daughter To Ensure Her Hymen there

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Whether you're talking about OOW births, single parents housesholds, woman-headed households. It's abundantly clear that African-Americans have always had a significantly higher rates than whites. Again, cookie cutter nuclear families were never our culture like it was(kind still is) for whites.




https://www.milbank.org/wp-content/...sue-02/48-2-part-2-Illegitimacy-and-Race.pdf\

Lotta you neo cons keep trying to paint this picture of a mythical past where black men and women got married as virgins, stayed together forever, and never had chidlren out of wedlock that just never existed in reality. If your going to propose that as a better alternative then fine, we can have that debate. But, don't try to distort history to make the case for it.

The bottom line is the vast majority of Black couples were married when having children. Whether they raised their children in nuclear or extended families is beside the point. There WAS NOT a culture of accepted out of wedlock births in Black America prior to the 1970's. Black people were largely socially conservative over the first century-plus following slavery.

You posting studies showing that Blacks were more likely to be in extended families(which is technically the normal traditional family) than nuclear families relative to Whites does not refute that fact.

And don't call me neocon, you dumb ass libtard.
 

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Either, your situation is represents one of the few exceptions, you're lying, or someone lied to you.

What you're saying is not only factually incorrect. It's ahistorical.

Web Dubois who was a proponent of a judeo christian western nuclear family structure all the way back in 1908 remarked on the "fractured negro family" in the US and even tried to link it back to our "african past" of polygamy as to why we didn't have strong marriages.
Sociation Today Spring 2009, Volume 7, Number 1
AFRICAN AND AFRO-AMERICAN FAMILY STRUCTURE: A COMPARISON on JSTOR

But, I guess you, a layman today, knows more about the black family structure of the past than a black scholar who actually lived during that time.

@Maximus already schooled you on this point but I'll just add that black men have always been victims of white supremacy. So even back in the day where the black family was stronger we were still being victimized by white supremacy which is why households weren't as nuclear as white households.

Take away the negative effects of white supremacy and those numbers would be different (if we are to believe they are real which I doubt).
 

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my daughter literally has our bloodline growing within her 9 months & I expect my boys to be willing to die over her protection.
actually it's sons who carry the bloodline

daughters become part of the legacy of the man that impregnates them

there is way more at risk with a man being reckless with his seed

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This coming from the resident admitted coli rapist only serves to prove my point about dudes with your line of thinking.

I apologize,I was as wrong for calling you a sick puppy as you are calling me a rapist. I don't lead with insults when I debate my stances,only facts and knowledge. I'll just say you are completely wrong and need to rearrange your priorities as far as whats important. And saying "cookie cutter nuclear families" were never our forte completely misses the mark. As it really goes to show how our people have been brainwashed for years by the European.

Message to the youth watching,realize they first taught us to believe that polygamy was evil under god and in a civilized society.Why?because they knew the power of polygamy. Then they went straight to the lifeblood of the black man which is the black woman,and taught her that being a whore is great and empowering. Yet somehow nikkas in this thread can't see the brainwashing in effect,likely because they are brainwashed as well. Black men like T.I are taking it up a notch and overwriting the brainwashing of the European. Its every black mans job to gain knowledge of self and then brainwash the black woman,reversing the European indoctrination/programming.
 

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People in here defending in him are delusional. She's American. She has American friends. She was born in American culture. This kind of behavior was unacceptable 20-30 years ago. Now? It's so crazy that he's going to have to do major damage control just to save his relationship with his daughter. Every where she turns - whether it be social media, her friends, the internet, her college professors, her friends parents - people are going to tell her that her father is crazy, over-controlling and possessive.

Also, this thread just shows how ignorant most American Black Men are. They think that T.I. is protecting his daughter from the mean cold world and some sneaky guy who's going to hit it and quit it. But this is how Men think about sex. Women don't see it like that at all. Women, not men, fought to have the sexual revolution. Women will view T.I.'s controlling behavior as invading his daughters privacy, stealing his daughters freedom and treating her like an object rather than a person. You can’t protect someone from themselves. You want to protect your daughter? Raise her to make good decisions. And then be there to help her pick up the pieces when things go wrong.

I knew people who grew up in over controlling households as kids. It never works. Kids rebel, and the kids who grow up in the most controlling households rebel the most. As soon as she starts to think for herself, she's going to do the exact thing her father tried to prevent. This is a textbook example of how NOT to raise a kid.

Deyjah Harris Wants You To Know She’s Not Pleased With T.I.’s Preoccupation With Her Hymen Either
 

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This is unsettling cares about this ? It’s not 1919...honestly it’s a little suspect ...
 

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actually it's sons who carry the bloodline

daughters become part of the legacy of the man that impregnates them

there is way more at risk with a man being reckless with his seed

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Breh, I'm talking about the child. Man carries the seed, the woman carries the child. A man being reckless is only by diseases or something. A woman can fall & kill the baby a man can't.

Thought people should know what I meant by now.

My daughter produces my lineage, do you know what I'm talking about? The child by my son isn't more important than the child by my daughter, I love them both.

Obviously you don't know my belief. What dumb ass shyt is this? My daughter carries my bloodline & is part of my legacy.
 

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By the way, it's one thing to do something like this and keep it private. Another thing completely to do something like this and make it public for the whole world to know. That's how you know it's all about him. And his control of his daughter's vagina. What normal parent would go on a podcast and tell jokes about going to the gynecologist to check their daughter's hymen? Let's say she had sex. What happens in then?
 

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Breh, I'm talking about the child. Man carries the seed, the woman carries the child. A man being reckless is only by diseases or something. A woman can fall & kill the baby a man can't.

Thought people should know what I meant by now.

My daughter produces my lineage, do you know what I'm talking about? The child by my son isn't more important than the child by my daughter, I love them both.

Obviously you don't know my belief. What dumb ass shyt is this? My daughter carries my bloodline & is part of my legacy.
women definitely have a great responsibility in carrying a child

still from the last name to the genes the dominant factor is the father

ha bless you though all the best to you & yours

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The bottom line is the vast majority of Black couples were married when having children. Whether they raised their children in nuclear or extended families is beside the point. . Black people were largely socially conservative over the first century-plus following slavery.


The world as a whole generally is more socially liberal now than in the past century. That was never my point of contention.

My point was when put in it proper historical context, AADOS have always been more sexually liberal than the norm or standard of the time, just like we are now. Not a great deal has changed in that regard.

There WAS NOT a culture of accepted out of wedlock births in Black America prior to the 1970's

The OOW birth rates spiked between 1910s and 1970s, particularly at the tail end of that time period for EVERYONE. And FYI, the jump was greater for white people(where the ratio increase 3xs), proportionally, than African-Americans(where the ratio increase 2xs). The 60s-70s OOW boom was not special, particular, or spectacular to the black community at all.

You posting studies showing that Blacks were more likely to be in extended families(which is technically the normal traditional family) than nuclear families relative to Whites does not refute that fact.

You forgetting the part where I explicitly link stats that clearly show AAs have higher rates of OOW births, single parents housesholds, and woman-headed households as well as lower marriage rates for households with children between 1880-1980? The higher rate of living within extended families is due to our communal culture. And no that is not the tradition within the dominant judeo christian western society- two parent nuclear families are.

And don't call me neocon, you dumb ass libtard.

lol Try not to get in your feelings and lose your wits about your self, kiddo.
 
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Cool. I teach them the same thing. I don't play favorites but let's be real. Men & women typically have different expectations & I'm not gonna lie & act like I didn't raise my daughter a little different from her brothers.

I'm protective of my boys too, just not as much as my daughter according to the court. Don't know how you don't understand, I'm protective of all my kids. This thread is about a daughter so I was going with the thread. My boys came up after. I just told you what I meant.

Edit: we just talking, it's good. Just wanted to make sure you know what I'm saying. We got no problems.

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women definitely have a great responsibility in carrying a child

still from the last name to the genes the dominant factor is the father

ha bless you though all the best to you & yours

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No problem, we just talking. My kids Identify with Black & live with us.They have my name. We are defensive with women when we consider them family. Once my son girl had my granddaughter it was over. She's a daughter to me now & I treat her as such.
 
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