T.I vs Jeezy vs Gucci vs Future..whose had the best run?

[Wacky D]

people in here claiming that tip had more longevity than jeezy? GTFOH.

jeezy's last album was buzzin. whens the last time tip's albums were generally relevant? paper trail?

and its sickening how people are basing this off of commercial success.

RIP HIP-HOP

Jeezy did not usher in big time dope boy trap talk into Southern trap music. T.I. was doing that before Jeezy. Other rappers in the A were doing that before T.I. Jeezy didn't put Shawty Lo on the map and Rocko was already making moves in the A. Shawty Lo was in D4L and had "I'm Da Man" buzzing in the A. Rocko was somewhat of an A&R turned rapper.

its not about who did it before who.

its about who made it THE CHIT.

jeezy made trap music THE CHIT and his style of trap is what changed the landscape of rap music.

Jeezy had a nice three album run from '05 -'08. You could extend it from late '04 with the Trap or Die mixtape also. That's when Jeezy was consistently dropping heat.Then the whole fiasco with TM103 happened and Rick Ross moved comfortably into his lane and it was never the same again. Jeezy was huge, but I still don't really consider what he did a movement. When I think of movements I think of something like what happened with "Still Tippin". From that one song, you had several artists in Houston blowing up and had strong hold on rap for a good year.

"still tippin" wasnt a movement.

it was 3 guys on a classic hit single right before they were all about to drop their national debuts.

and their buzzes were all dry once it was time to drop their next albums.

it was a great MOMENT but not a movement.

 

[eastside313]

Jeezy did not usher in big time dope boy trap talk into Southern trap music. T.I. was doing that before Jeezy. Other rappers in the A were doing that before T.I. Jeezy didn't put Shawty Lo on the map and Rocko was already making moves in the A. Shawty Lo was in D4L and had "I'm Da Man" buzzing in the A. Rocko was somewhat of an A&R turned rapper.

Ti did not blow the lane up like jeezy did. Ti biggest songs was bout bytches and taking vacations or some shyt and who the Fukk was listening to d4l. Jeezy blew up hello and Imma do me lets be for real here.

 

[DreadBrown]

3 no1 albums in 7months

 

[Wacky D]

Future not even in the conversation

yea.

if he was out 10 years ago, he'd be a novelty act.

hes good for his time. i can say that at least.

 

[Newzz]

people in here claiming that tip had more longevity than jeezy? GTFOH.

jeezy's last album was buzzin. whens the last time tip's albums were generally relevant? paper trail?

TI's last album was "Paperwork"...went to #2 on the US Charts and had "About The Money" (reached #42 on the Hot 100 Charts) and "No Mediocre" (reached #33 on the Hot Charts)

Jeezy's last album was "Church In These Streets"...went to #4 on the US Charts, but he didn't have any singles reach the Hot 100.


What do you mean "jeezy's last album was buzzin" and then asking when's the last time TIP albums were relevant?

and its sickening how people are basing this off of commercial success.

RIP HIP-HOP

Relevance is heavily based upon an artist's commercial success though

its not about who did it before who.

its about who made it THE CHIT.

jeezy made trap music THE CHIT and his style of trap is what changed the landscape of rap music.

Are you serious?


TI had already dropped Trap Muzik AND Urban Legend before Jeezy even dropped Trap or Die


TI had the streets on LOCK at that time

"still tippin" wasnt a movement.

it was 3 guys on a classic hit single right before they were all about to drop their national debuts.

and their buzzes were all dry once it was time to drop their next albums.

it was a great MOMENT but not a movement.

Yeah...you're not serious, you're crazy



The entire Houston Movement was killing the game, even took over Ohio with the whole Swisha House/Chamillitary/Paul Wall/Slim Thug/Mike Jones/etc movement they were doing. Even Dallas was getting it in (DSR)



You tripping

 

[JustCKing]

Ti did not blow the lane up like jeezy did. Ti biggest songs was bout bytches and taking vacations or some shyt and who the Fukk was listening to d4l. Jeezy blew up hello and Imma do me lets be for real here.

"Soul Survivor" is Jeezy's biggest hit and it wasn't about trappin' either. Neither was "Luv It" or "Go Getta" or any of his other big records.

"I'm Da Man" was huge in the A regardless of how people felt about D4L.

Jeezy did not blow up "Hello" and "Imma Do Me". The version of "Imma Do Me" that doesn't feature Jeezy was already huge and T.I. is also featured on the remix. Again, Rocko was doing things musically in the A before people even knew who Jeezy was. Rocko was writing and putting other artists on.

 

[JustCKing]

TI's last album was "Paperwork"...went to #2 on the US Charts and had "About The Money" (reached #42 on the Hot 100 Charts) and "No Mediocre" (reached #33 on the Hot Charts)

Jeezy's last album was "Church In These Streets"...went to #4 on the US Charts, but he didn't have any singles reach the Hot 100.


What do you mean "jeezy's last album was buzzin" and then asking when's the last time TIP albums were relevant?





Relevance is heavily based upon an artist's commercial success though








Are you serious?


TI had already dropped Trap Muzik AND Urban Legend before Jeezy even dropped Trap or Die


TI had the streets on LOCK at that time








Yeah...you're not serious, you're crazy



The entire Houston Movement was killing the game, even took over Ohio with the whole Swisha House/Chamillitary/Paul Wall/Slim Thug/Mike Jones/etc movement they were doing. Even Dallas was getting it in (DSR)



You tripping

People are in here and re-writing history left and right to put Jeezy on T.I.'s level.

 

[Wacky D]

TI's last album was "Paperwork"...went to #2 on the US Charts and had "About The Money" (reached #42 on the Hot 100 Charts) and "No Mediocre" (reached #33 on the Hot Charts)

Jeezy's last album was "Church In These Streets"...went to #4 on the US Charts, but he didn't have any singles reach the Hot 100.

The entire Houston Movement was killing the game, even took over Ohio with the whole Swisha House/Chamillitary/Paul Wall/Slim Thug/Mike Jones/etc movement they were doing. Even Dallas was getting it in (DSR)

the REAL question is whose album was more relevant in the streets.

and TI was popular but he never had anything LOCKED. nor was he remotely as popular as jeezy.

listen man, i liked that houston & texas run myself, but thats not a movement. yall are abusing the term. it shouldve been retired years ago.
and none of those guys were important singularly. thats one of the reasons why the run was a flash in the pan.

 

[JustCKing]

Jeezy has a better discography with multiple projects held in higher esteem than anything T.I dropped and he did it without resorting to corny pop songs.

This is all subjective because you could just as easily say Trap Muzik, Urban Legend, and King>>>>>> Thug Motivation, The Inspiration, and The Recession. Trap Muzik birthed TM101 word to Jeezy sampling "Rubberband Man" on said album. T.I. had bigger hits without having R. Kelly and Akon on his singles. "What You Know" and "Big Things Poppin'" are bigger than any solo hit Jeezy has ever had. "What You Know" is bigger than any single Jeezy ever had period and it wasn't even catering to a Pop audience.

Still, this doesn't support an argument of how Jeezy is somehow artistically better than T.I.

 

[JustCKing]

the REAL question is whose album was more relevant in the streets.

listen man, i liked that houston & texas run myself, but thats not a movement. yall are abusing the term. it shouldve been retired years ago.
and none of those guys were important singularly. thats one of the reasons why the run was a flash in the pan.

The Houston Movement is far more of a movement than a Snowman T shirt getting banned from high schools especially in regard to music. Having an impact =/= having a movement. A movement is more of a ripple effect. One small ripple growing to become something bigger. "Still Tippin" was just one song that ballooned into Houston taking over.

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[Newzz]

the REAL question is whose album was more relevant in the streets.

Church In The Streets was not relevant on any streets I've stomped on.....and neither was any track off the album. Paperwork has more relevance, because I heard About The Money & No Mediocre getting major play in the hood bars and clubs here. I have yet to hear anything from Jeezy's last album being played outside of my own car speakers:many:

listen man, i liked that houston & texas run myself, but thats not a movement. yall are abusing the term. it shouldve been retired years ago.

and none of those guys were important singularly. thats one of the reasons why the run was a flash in the pan.

It was a flash in the pan for YOU....you must be from the East Coast.


In OHIO.....they had at least a strong 7 year run from like 2000-2007.

 

[Wacky D]

The Houston Movement is far more of a movement than a Snowman T shirt getting banned from high schools especially in regard to music. Having an impact =/= having a movement. A movement is more of a ripple effect. One small ripple growing to become something bigger. "Still Tippin" was just one song that ballooned into Houston taking over..

homie i was 20 when jeezy blew up. im not going to bat over no high schools.

you just mentioned that high school stuff cuz somebody else just mentioned it on the last page. youre not up on jeezy's movement.

houston had a string of hits but they didnt take over anything. they werent even the biggest city down south at the time.

and you dudes dont know what a movement is. yall the type of cats that kill slang when yall jump on it.

Church In The Streets was not relevant on any streets I've stomped on.....and neither was any track off the album. Paperwork has more relevance, because I heard About The Money & No Mediocre getting major play in the hood bars and clubs here. I have yet to hear anything from Jeezy's last album being played outside of my own car speakers:many:





It was a flash in the pan for YOU....you must be from the East Coast.


In OHIO.....they had at least a strong 7 year run from like 2000-2007.

of course that chit got played in the bars and clubs. they were heavily promoted singles.

what does location have to do with this? dont both of these guys claim the same city? and for the record i used to live down south too breh.

obviously this argument isnt about what they were doing during any of those years other than '05-06.

 

[JustCKing]

homie i was 20 when jeezy blew up. im not going to bat over no high schools.

you just mentioned that high school stuff cuz somebody else just mentioned it on the last page. youre not up on jeezy's movement.

houston had a string of hits but they didnt take over anything. they werent even the biggest city down south at the time.

and you dudes dont know what a movement is. yall the type of cats that kill slang when yall jump on it.




of course that chit got played in the bars and clubs. they were heavily promoted singles.

what does location have to do with this? dont both of these guys claim the same city? and for the record i used to live down south too breh.

obviously this argument isnt about what they were doing during any of those years other than '05-06.

I'm not mentioning that high school because someone else did. The whole snowman T shirts being banned is what is always brought up in regard to Jeezy having a "movement".

Houston had more than a string of hits. There were albums that blew up because of it and some of them had multiple hits. In '05, Houston was only competing with Atlanta.

Movement isn't a slang term especially when in reference to Jeezy when at the time he was saying what he was doing rivaled the Civil Rights Movement in terms of impact.

 

[Wacky D]

I'm not mentioning that high school because someone else did. The whole snowman T shirts being banned is what is always brought up in regard to Jeezy having a "movement".

Houston had more than a string of hits. There were albums that blew up because of it and some of them had multiple hits. In '05, Houston was only competing with Atlanta.

Movement isn't a slang term especially when in reference to Jeezy when at the time he was saying what he was doing rivaled the Civil Rights Movement in terms of impact.

its always brought up ON HERE. okay. but thats just a portion of it. you only acknowledge that bit because you read about it on here.

yea, most of the albums sold along with the singles, but how many of their 2nd albums can you name?

youre right. movement should not be a slang term. but yall sure slangin it.

 

[JustCKing]

its always brought up ON HERE. okay. but thats just a portion of it. you only acknowledge that bit because you read about it on here.

yea, most of the albums sold along with the singles, but how many of their 2nd albums can you name?

youre right. movement should not be a slang term. but yall sure slangin it.

I knew about the whole Snowman T-shirt being banned before there was a Coli. I remember it being a thing back when it first happened.

You don't read much do you. Did you not read the part where I posted that they had a strong hold on the game for about a year.