T.O. On Mike & Mike Going In On Cris Carter EDIT: fukkery Continues On First Take

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I agree that he deserves 1st ballot off production, but he was a dikk to everyone and anyone possible. And HOF is about votes not stats, so like anything else people vote on, you gotta win the favor of the people voting.

He did not do that enough this time around. This is where the way you treat people comes into play.

Call your QB a faq, throw your coaches under the bus, question your QB's relationship to his TE, split a locker room by questioning another QB.

It comes with some sort of consequence

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Typical, stupid Cac logic. Unless the Hall of Fame voters were T.O.'s coaches, QB's or former teammates of his (which isn't the case) all the aforementioned shouldn't be a substantive reason to keep T.O out when he deserves to be enshrined in the HOF based on his overall performance & statistics.

Also, I find it funny that T.O haters like yourself or racists continuously tend to bring up random, insignificant transgressions to mask your/their biases, particularly when they have nothing to do with T.O being one of the greatest WR to ever play the game, while completely overlooking or glossing over other NFL players improprieties, such as Brett Farve, who had no problem getting in as a first ballot Hall of Famer despite his numerous transgressions on & off the field during his career.



PRO FOOTBALL: Favre Says He Abused Painkillers And Will Enter Treatment Center

"Green Bay quarterback Brett Favre, who was named the most valuable player in the National Football League last season, revealed yesterday that he has voluntarily entered the
league's substance-abuse program and will enter a drug treatment facility because of a dependence on painkillers he developed over the last two seasons."


PRO FOOTBALL;Favre Says He Abused Painkillers And Will Enter Treatment Center


Glanville's eye-opening explanation of trading Favre

"We often hear criticism of trades because the player for whom the trade was made never justifies the price that was paid. Some trades end up being criticized because the player becomes in his new home an incredibly great player. Or, as the case may be, a Hall of Famer. Or, possibly, one of the greatest of all time.

That was indeed the case nearly 20 years ago, when Brett Favre was shipped to the Packers after only one season in Atlanta.

Our buddy Thom Abraham of WNSR in Nashville passes along a clip of a recent interview with former Falcons coach Jerry Glanville, who defended the decision to trade Favre in blunt terms.

“I had to get him out of Atlanta. . . . I could not sober him up,” Glanville said. “I sent him to a city where at 9:00 at night the only thing that’s open is Chili Joes. You can get it two ways, with or without onions. And that’s what made Brett Favre make a comeback was going to a town that closed down. If I would have traded him to New York, nobody to this day would have known who Brett Favre ever was.”

Favre has been candid regarding his issues with alcohol and painkillers, which he eventually beat several years ago. (He was addicted to the same substance at the center of Ryan Leaf’s ongoing criminal woes.) Still, we can’t recall Glanville ever being quite so candid about the reason for the trade."

Glanville's eye-opening explanation of trading Favre



Brett Farve Once Sent Me Cock Shots


"Last winter, close to the Super Bowl, Ms. Sterger and I were discussing a possible collaboration on the proposed "Deadspin Swimsuit Project," which turned into a conversation about the whole "athlete dong photo" phenomenon. She claimed that she's been on the receiving end of several of those types of cell phone interactions by drunk men, some of whom were professional athletes. We later had a phone conversation about who some of the more well-known dong-shot senders were. One person, she claimed, who was very into cell phone-donging her was none other than Brett Favre. Now, at one point in his career, this news wouldn't be too surprising. Favre's time in Green Bay is littered with stories about his boozing and carousing. But gray-haired Favre? Oh yeah, she said. Sterger said that Favre first began to call her early in the season and leave strange, friendly messages on her voicemail. She played me one of these voicemails over the phone. It was Brett turning on the Mississippi simpleton charm on his way to practice giving Jenn a friendly good ol' boy hello to a pretty lady. It was odd, but nothing incriminating. Then the phone calls from Brett started to turn weird.


Sterger claimed she spurned Favre's advances because he was married, but also because she was working for the Jets at the time she didn't think it was the best idea to start a torrid affair with the team's highest profile player (the Jets have not responded to a question about any knowledge of the Favre/Sterger saga at this time). Plus, if she went forward with how aggressive he was and how skeeved out she was to some of her superiors, she suspected she might lose her job. The interactions were flirty and strange but she didn't think there wasn't anything that made her too uncomfortable. But then, one night, Sterger received a picture on her phone which was so shocking that she just tossed it across the room. It was his dikk. Brett Favre's dikk. And it happened multiple times. In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs. In another photo, Favre is holding his penis while wearing the wristwatch he wore during his first teary-eyed retirement press conference."


"'Brett Favre Once Sent Me Cock Shots": Not A Love Story


Sources: Two More Women Who Worked With Jets Received Lewd Texts From Favre


"This is about to get worse. It appears Jenn Sterger wasn't the only woman who received unwanted and inappropriate text messages from Brett Favre while he played for the Jets. Favre also pursued two team massage therapists, according to one of the women. [UPDATE: The women have sued.]

The woman (who wishes to remain anonymous for now — we'll call her "Mandy") worked as a massage therapist for the team for a couple years, but she says never had an incident with a player until No. 4 showed up at training camp at Hofstra University, where the Jets still worked out in 2008. "He was on the table next to mine," she tells me. "He was looking at my ass the whole time while I worked on another player. He was ... ogling me."

The woman who was massaging Brett that day (massage therapist No. 2, or "Lindsay") exchanged numbers with him. (Mandy claims it's common for players to take the numbers of team-contracted massage therapists should they need additional rubdowns off campus. Yeah, I know. Please don't.)

Lindsay received a text message from Favre, according to Mandy. Lindsay assumed it was for a massage but quickly realized Brett was asking for more. He invited both Lindsay and Mandy back to his hotel room. Mandy claims that the texts became increasingly inappropriate ("just nasty stuff"), but she adds that Brett did apologize when he found out she was married.

This apology over text, however, wasn't enough for Mandy's husband. We'll call him "John".

"I called him on his phone and told him I wanted an apology. He acted all arrogant. He refused to apologize," John tells me in a phone conversation."

http://deadspin.com/5659474/sources...ceived-lewd-texts-from-favre?skyline=true&s=i
 

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I remember it plain as day. Terrance Newman was on First Take when the TO being cut news broke. Dude looked visibly hurt/shook and said just as much.

but can you agree that Jason Garrett was favoring Romo and Witten in that offense that could've been better if differences were set aside?
ain't no secret he was AND if I remember correctly, Roy Williams was the one who got all the receivers and complained to Garrett, not TO. He was there but not this ringleader they make him out to be
 

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Lowkey, Garcia's FUKKERY gotta be the main reason for TO HOF omission:skip:

...that agenda, brehs:sas2:

And, the Cowgirls ETHER star-midfield-tackle will never not be funny:banderas:
 
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