Tariq Nasheed and online FBA movement turns against Prof James Smalls — Smalls accused FBA of being funded by State Dept, FBI and CIA?

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I'm not saying he's government funded, because yeah there might be an actual movement to look into reparations. And if it's not from someone who doesn't work for the government, they could care less if the movement restarts. Reparations aren't going to happen if there isn't a large enough coalition to support the movement.

It could be a thinktank, Leonard Leo, or thousand other shady multimillionaires. But there's reasons to break up movements who have similar interests. I mean, one of the arguments for MLK's assassination is not because he was talking about civil rights, it happened when he started talking about socialism. By having FBA and the broader diaspora 45 million strong, that is a movement that could create political change.

And I'm not saying Tariq doesn't believe what he says. The way he goes about it is wildly intellectually dishonest and at this point not even worth engaging in any serious manner.


well, that is really the main issue.
You could be mad at Tariq as much as you want, but they just isn’t any proof that the so-called diaspora would support reparations for ADOS/FBA
 

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Pan africanism is diametrically opposed to white supremacy.

Similar to how pan Europeanism represent pro white supremacy and pan asiatic ideologies are pro asiatic power.

Black people being anti pan African is counter productive at an intrinsic level

so are you saying ADOS/FBA aren’t dramatically opposed to white supremacy ? :what:
 

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You were happy just being "regular black" and didnt understand the importance of lineage or the concept of ethnicity. Stfup :camby:
I know you don't think you're worth taking seriously. You're still scared to even verify that you're Black. And you're a Trump supporter on top of that.

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Dude talking about lineage and the concept of ethnicity like this particular "movement" is serious. It is a personality cult and nothing more.

 

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I know you don't think you're worth taking seriously. You're still scared to even verify that you're Black. And you're a Trump supporter on top of that.



Dude talking about lineage and the concept of ethnicity like this particular "movement" is serious. It is a personality cult and nothing more.


What do you identify as fed talk

show me a better identifier than fba. Make it make sense
 

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Some of the replies in this thread are absolutely ridiculous.

"FBA needs to link up with the diaspora so that we all can create political change."

This is flat out silly thinking. To give an example, Nigeria has 200 million people, and they control their land/resources for the most part. Why would 200 million people who own and can control their own resources need 40 million people to "enact political change"? To even suggest people that own and can control their land needs an outside group that doesn't control the power structure in their country just exemplifies extreme incompetence.

And FBA don't need a bunch of people that can barely survive on a landmass they can control and have the population numbers, but still struggling to survive and thrive. Japan has less resources, and less manpower than Nigeria, and had 2 atomic bombs dropped on their heads. FBA ancestors were enslaved for 240+ years, outnumbered and outgunned, constantly having our shyt jacked from us, etc... If you can't move & shake where you are, you are essentially useless.

"FBA is a CIA opp meant to infiltrate and destroy the pan-African movement."

The pan-African movement is 100+ years old and failed 40+ years ago (and I am being generous here). It's just a bunch of cats in daishiki's talking about a bunch of conspiratorial nonsense, spookism, beefing with each other, and more talking. Pan-Africanism hasn't amounted to a damn thing in America. No solutions, no strategies, no money being pooled together, no jobs for Black people, no nothing but a bunch of babbling bullshyt.

The Pan-African "movement" is doing nothing to warrant the CIA/FBI to infiltrate and disrupt it. Nothing has come of it in 100 years.
 

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What do you identify as fed talk

show me a better identifier than fba. Make it make sense
I don't need to "show you a better identifier" to point out that FBA, as it exists today, is a disorganized, personality-driven cult, that's constantly derailed by drama. An identifier only matters *if* the people behind it are serious, disciplined, and focused. Tariq Nasheed is not. His followers aren't, either.

And I identify as what I actually am: a Black American, descended from the people who built this country under slavery and Jim Crow. That's just reality, not a brand, not a hashtag, not a label created by someone looking to make a buck off us and our history. Just a Black American.

If you want something stronger than that, build something stronger. The name isn't necessarily the problem. The behavior is. Naming and recognizing specific histories is not divisive -- it's necessary -- and can coexist with pan-Black solidarity in a much more honest way, but this FBA thing? It is not something serious, because the person behind it is someone unserious.
 

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well, that is really the main issue.
You could be mad at Tariq as much as you want, but they just isn’t any proof that the so-called diaspora would support reparations for ADOS/FBA

It seems easier to support reparations than doing the hard long term work of self improvement education and internal infrastructure to not need it. Other communities did it because they had to and it seems like the ados crowd isn’t interested in even entertaining anything other than this singular utopian suggestive all-fix.
 

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I don't need to "show you a better identifier" to point out that FBA, as it exists today, is a disorganized, personality-driven cult, that's constantly derailed by drama. An identifier only matters *if* the people behind it are serious, disciplined, and focused. Tariq Nasheed is not. His followers aren't, either.

And I identify as what I actually am: a Black American, descended from the people who built this country under slavery and Jim Crow. That's just reality, not a brand, not a hashtag, not a label created by someone looking to make a buck off us and our history. Just a Black American.

If you want something stronger than that, build something stronger. The name isn't necessarily the problem. The behavior is. Naming and recognizing specific histories is not divisive -- it's necessary -- and can coexist with pan-Black solidarity in a much more honest way, but this FBA thing? It is not something serious, because the person behind it is someone unserious.
Explain how tariq nasheed is not focused when hes the biggest platform on social media calling out white supremacy

If you identify as a black American, you should have no problem with identifying as a "foundational" black american

your too busy being a democrat-american thats your ethnicity. And you were happy with that
 

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Anyone going against Prof James Small is a damn Koon.

But we already knew about these folks.
 
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We as a black people disagree in public way too much. James Smalls could have got on the phone with Tariq and hashed this out or vice versa. These 3rd party trolls who are panny when convenient are orchestrating this chaos behind the scenes.

Tariq pointed out something about panny and non FBA that any righteous person could see. That doesn’t make him the leader. That doesn’t make him an agent.

FBA/Freedmen/Ados is out the barn we have identified ourselves and either get down or lay down.
 

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It seems easier to support reparations than doing the hard long term work of self improvement education and internal infrastructure to not need it. Other communities did it because they had to and it seems like the ados crowd isn’t interested in even entertaining anything other than this singular utopian suggestive all-fix.


You fled you didn’t do any of that :what:
 
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