Tariq nasheed finally went too far

lib123

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If anyone's the agent/clown, it's you all who aren't questioning the way we vote (unconditional support of Democratic Party without any specific set asides for black ppl), which hasn't generated any economic benefits for black ppl collectively over the last 70 years. Black wealth as % of total wealth is the same now (2%) as it was in 1950.

The solution is then to run and support candidates in the primary that support you and your people and remove the establishment democrats who havent done anything for you. The solution damn sure isn't you resign yourself to apathy remove yourself from the equation and allow people who would have you suffer control power without a fight. That's what bytch ass mindset is and its promoted by ignorant fukks or agents.

You're acting like black people don't collectively suffer under Democrats. Replacing establishment politicians with black peoples financially-backed by white donors won't lead to major policy efforts targeted towards helping black people.

Why do Democrats offer explicit benefits to other "minority" groups like hispanics but not black people, despite the fact that we vote for them at much higher rates?

I agree we should run and financially support our own candidates, but given our limited resources and minority status, we have to employ issue-based block voting as well. Block voting isn't effective if you always vote for the same party unconditionally.

Get out your feelings, bruh.
 

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You're acting like black people don't collectively suffer under Democrats. Replacing establishment politicians with black peoples financially-backed by white donors won't lead to major policy efforts targeted towards helping black people.

Why do Democrats offer explicit benefits to other "minority" groups like hispanics but not black people, despite the fact that we vote for them at much higher rates?

I agree we should run and financially support our own candidates, but given our limited resources and minority status, we have to employ issue-based block voting as well. Block voting isn't effective if you always vote for the same party unconditionally.

Get out your feelings, bruh.
What explicit benefits are offered exclusively to Hispanics? Also, what policies have republicans set forth for blacks?
 

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If anyone's the agent/clown, it's you all who aren't questioning the way we vote (unconditional support of Democratic Party without any specific set asides for black ppl), which hasn't generated any economic benefits for black ppl collectively over the last 70 years. Black wealth as % of total wealth is the same now (2%) as it was in 1950.

But you’re not seeing the wider point

Would you rather vote for Trumps party and the openly racist governors, senators, base who have shown no reason to explicitly back the black voters, or even shown any inclination that they will help black people in any shape or form. What policies did de Santos propose to black community vs Gilliam?

Or would you vote for the party with actual black governors, senators, etc and work with them from the inside rather than the outside. Anyone who does business or works in a professional field will tell you it’s easier to crack deals rom the inside, rather than from the outside

I think if we step back from this and understand this “no vote” behaviour, we see it’s like little kids throwing their toys out of the park because they haven’t got what they want

To work with any party you have to bring shyt to the table. Instead all you no voters are doing is sitting back and complaining on this forum or on Twitter and not bringing shyt to the tables of the politicians. How do you expect them to do anything for you? The LGBT community stomped their feet and the tables until they got change. But the no vote black community think they can just sit back and get their way

I think people who do not vote are literally stupid idiots and deserve everything coming their way

You have no end goal.

No vote and do what?

Form your own political party? Lol. The dude you look up to can’t even form his life properly, and that’s your daddy??

fukk outta here man

Anyone who does business knows leverage is key when making deals. If you're not willing to collectively withhold your vote, what leverage do you have? There have been many black politicians with a "seat at the table" in the Democratic Party. And what policy has that led to? Individual black people doing well for themselves and the illusion of inclusion despite no policy directly targeting the economic alleviation of black people.

Post-WWII economic policies formed the white middle class. Despite all our voting and black politicians and extended periods of Democrats in power, why is black wealth as share of total still at 1950s levels?
 

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Wow, this response was so dumb. I don't even know where to start. You post reeks of self hatred.

I don't think you realize how brook black people are. Stunting doesn't equate to money. Especially compared to the money white people have.

We're not even on the same playing field.
I said nothing of it being equal to white money.
Nor did you say anything about us having white money in your post that i was responding to.
What's the self hatred part of it?
 

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DREAM act does not apply only to Hispanics. Many blacks benefit as well

Yes but it's well known that that policy was marketed and directed towards the hispanic community to get their vote since that's a major issue they face. What bill has been marketed and directed to black community to get our vote? Whereby we are the primary beneficiaries?
 

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I'm curious why the pro-black agenda has not shifted toward politics, and I dont mean talking about it for the sake of talking but actually the collective pushing towards a black agenda creating a PAC. Every elections I'm hearing dont vote, because said candidate didnt address black people, but we have yet to create a PUSH to bring forth an agenda. Its more easy to point out the discrepancies in the system but sticking your head out for black politics is the biggest risk obviously. Tariq can GoFundMe for every movie he make, but dont want to raise funds for a political effort to gain a voice with these politicians who are running. Instead folks would rather demean black ppl who choose to vote.

Black Nationalists have done nothing but involve themselves in the political arena since before any of us were born. We just ignored their suggestions and instead chose to follow behind whatever white folks were doing. In short we took the easy route.

How can you create an effective PAC without the economics to sustain it? For as long as we’ve been able to vote Black people have been doing it backward.

You create the economic foundation first, then you put that money to use to create the political change you want.

And looking for Tariq to do anything is part of the problem.

He’s no Black Nationalist. He’s a nikka who found a lane because Blacks are so starved for good info about ourselves that we’ll accept damn near anyone, but we’re also too damned lazy to read. That’s how nikkas like Tariq and umar keep gettin over, while the average Black person knows nothing about the late Dr. Amos Wilson or the late Prof. Clarke. Serious Black men who were serious about educating and uplifting the Black community.

Not some clown looking to parlay Black consciousness into a fukkin mink slide music career.
 

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I'm curious why the pro-black agenda has not shifted toward politics, and I dont mean talking about it for the sake of talking but actually the collective pushing towards a black agenda creating a PAC. Every elections I'm hearing dont vote, because said candidate didnt address black people, but we have yet to create a PUSH to bring forth an agenda. Its more easy to point out the discrepancies in the system but sticking your head out for black politics is the biggest risk obviously. Tariq can GoFundMe for every movie he make, but dont want to raise funds for a political effort to gain a voice with these politicians who are running. Instead folks would rather demean black ppl who choose to vote.



easier to get that donation money and put it into your own pocket than to actually put it towards something else. Also if people are donating to you for providing nothing but intangibles via talking on youtube, why switch up?

Also have to realize some of these folks eat pretty well and aren't doing bad right now. Tariq is a multi millionaire, why give up that Tax Break?
 
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