Tariq Nasheed on Breakfast Club

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Born and raised in Brooklyn, but stay sassy breh :heh:

You live in Atlanta with your boyfriend, we covered that already. As far as the talk, I'll bet money I been with more girls in a year than you have in a lifetime, and I'll knocc your bytch ass out on top of that. I know real Atlanta folk (not the gay transplants like you and your boyfriend) so we can definatey set that up. Of course we know you an internet talker and not about nothing, so keep making them long distance quips you internet lames love so much.
 

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Prove it. I'm not one of those people who hides behind a computer. If your bout that life set up a meeting spot at a gym in your area and I'll beat you into a raisin.

:mjlol: :umad:

I swear you e-thugs have been flexing lately. "Prove it"? You must be about 15 saying that. You must've been tapping mad hard on those keys typing that. You throw insults at me because I told you where he's from & you get rightfully called a cornball & lame because of it & now you're mad. Grow up lil man & use some of your e-thugging hostility for something constructive
 

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:mjlol: :umad:

I swear you e-thugs have been flexing lately. "Prove it"? You must be about 15 saying that. You must've been tapping mad hard on those keys typing that. You throw insults at me because I told you where he's from & you get rightfully called a cornball & lame because of it & now you're mad. Grow up lil man & use some of your e-thugging hostility for something constructive

An e-thug is someone who flexes online. I'm not flexing at all. Like I said, set it up and I'll be there to bust your head.

I travel a lot anyway so it's nothing. Next time I'm in NY I'll hit you up, I actually plan on going for the summer, so I'll let you know once I get there.
 
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now you twist my words around:mjlol:...that was in reference to that dumbass broke leg example you gave



poster was making excuses :yeshrug: live with it

The broken legs is symbolic of our condition.... There isn't a group alive that had their indigenous culture, spiritual system, and way of thinking completely eradicated... only to be remanufactured in its oppressor's image.... and not have extremely ill side effects from the process..........

so no... those weren't excuses....... there more akin to ailments than anything...
 

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And I respectfully disagree. I've listened to his shows for years now.

See this idea that a "system effects black people" (<------a common phrase used amongst he and his followers) is similar to stating that "black people" occupy the same position in our society simply by being "black" while discounting the economic,political, and regional diversity of blacks over the last century or so. Blacks historically in this country for the most part did occupy the same status under slavery and resided in the same regions at one point, but a lot of that has changed over the past 100 years. The black middle class, is the largest that it has ever been and for the most part has practiced values that brought them into the middle class status that they occupy today. Essentially they are just now building generational wealth similar to how the middle class whites did some 50 odd years ago.

Black people who are poor still occupy a large disproportion of America's poor today. They are a product for the most part of generational poverty. People within that class generally have values different from those in the middle class, they also have different priorities, different needs and different viewpoints.

Black people who are generationally poor, are NOT going to share the same "agenda" as black people who are upwardly mobile and middle class. "White supremacy" effects them DIFFERENTLY and therefore their solutions to their problems are going to be prioritized and handled DIFFERENTLY.

In regards to Tariq and his message that every black person isn't going to listen to what he is saying... well that's simply due to the fact that he isn't speaking the language of every black person*


The whole idea of "group work together" with groups as large and diverse as blacks doesn't make any sense. If anything I'd advocate that Middle class blacks within the same region explore a similar agenda based on their economic standing and political needs, and for poor blacks to do the same RATHER than to force either group to minimize their priorities by gelling the two groups together.

If I'm black and middle class and if you ask me what's the most important issue that I have to deal with is, it will be very different than if you were to ask me that very same question if I were black and poor. "Race" ie the fact that we share the same pigmentation and roots in slavery isn't going to change that there are differences between them today),

Why is that so difficult is that to grasp?

I know the whole catch phrase of "coming together as black folk" sounds good in theory--but has anyone actually been able to articulate the fine details of just how that is suppose to happen?

Ok--we're all in a big room together--poor blacks and middle class blacks from all over the country---> what's next, where do we go from here? Please provide as much detail as possible.

Its not difficult to understand that black people are not as uniform as we would like to be. I understand that part. Tariq is not making himself out to be a person with ALL the answers, however he has presented the public with answers to alot of trouble which would be to create a community that has stronger unison.

What is wrong with what tariq is doing aside from it not being perfect ?

It is a great start to move towards something positive. You keep mentioning the status of what a economically deprived black person thinks in comparison to what a middle class/upper middle class black person. These two parties have one big thing in common, issues with white supremacy. A community does not need everyone to virtually the same bruh. But it needs to have factor that everyone share.

And you still have not given a reason as to why tariq doesn't make alot of good points and why you think the foundations of his arguments is false.

The foundation of his arguments is white supremacy so how is that false. Do you believe in white supremacy ?

Does he make ANY good points that you agree with?
 
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