Tebow kinda got a raw deal didn't he?

[Heelmatic]

Clown shyt.

Ok smart guys, help me out then. Why don't you tell me the reason Denver started 1-4. Tell me how Tebow not turning the ball over and keeping the offense on the field longer didnt help their defense.

Lets hear it. Why after 5 games(1-4 record) did their defense go from giving up 28 ppg to 22 ppg?

 

[concise]

Ok smart guys, help me out then. Why don't you tell me the reason Denver started 1-4. Tell me how Tebow not turning the ball over and keeping the offense on the field longer didnt help their defense.

Lets hear it. Why after 5 games(1-4 record) did their defense go from giving up 28 ppg to 22 ppg?

Why? Because they were playing better. Is it that hard to understand? Have you never seen a good/decent team with a QB that is somewhere between average and before?

 

[Heelmatic]

Why? Because they were playing better. Is it that hard to understand? Have you never seen a good/decent team with a QB that is somewhere between average and before?

Listen man I'm not tryin to act like Tebow is some great QB, but I do think he is a great leader and whether yall like it or not, he helped turn that Broncos team around. In 5 games Kyle Orton had 7 ints, Tebow had 6 in 11 games. You don't think that effected their defense then thats on you bruh. Yall must know something about football that I don't

 

[concise]

Listen man I'm not tryin to act like Tebow is some great QB, but I do think he is a great leader and whether yall like it or not, he helped turn that Broncos team around. In 5 games Kyle Orton had 7 ints, Tebow had 6 in 11 games. You don't think that effected their defense then thats on you bruh. Yall must know something about football that I don't

You've already been hit with the stats that show the defense playing better shows the cause. Glancing at the some of these boxscores, I'm about to hit you with the time of possession stats for your claim that Tebow was keeping the team on the field and not turning the ball over (of course not, they didn't trust him to throw it )

 

[yseJ]

What do you expect, Orton to lead the league if hes on the bench? If Orton had finished playin dat season he wldve finished wld more ints and last in every qb stat and while leading the Broncos to last place. Tebow came in had that team believing they could win, and the did.

You say LUCKY drives, but he did have them drives, he did make those game winning plays, him not Orton. Dude is a natural winner, and in football the stats dont tell the whole gm. Thats why the games are actually played, as the 1st place team dont win the superbowl every year.

If you think ur stats are the end all and be all, then turn ur tv off and dont bother watching the game, you can use your stats and calculate who's gonna win each yr. I'll b watchin da superbowl gm and watchin how Wacko Flacco had a tremendous post season outta nowhere n won dat superbowl wit ray ray da murderer.

you said that orton would go 3 and out and tebow would be extending drives

when in reality broncos with orton were nowhere the leaders in 3 and outs or worst in the league in 3rd down conversion

yet they were worst in the league in 3 and outs with tebow and second worst in the league in 3rd down conversion with tebow.

so until you address your lie you made up on the spot, talking to you is insulting my intelligence.

oh and

If Orton had finished playin dat season he wldve finished wld more ints and last in every qb stat and while leading the Broncos to last place.

again you are a fukking idiot. orton had a 20td/9 pick year just a year ago. theres no way he would finish with last 'in every qb stat'

its clear you watch like 3 football games a year. dont make it any worse and stfu.

 

[yseJ]

Listen man I'm not tryin to act like Tebow is some great QB, but I do think he is a great leader and whether yall like it or not, he helped turn that Broncos team around. In 5 games Kyle Orton had 7 ints, Tebow had 6 in 11 games. You don't think that effected their defense then thats on you bruh. Yall must know something about football that I don't

one thing Ill give tebow is that he didnt turn the ball over, but the fact that with him broncos led the league in 3 and outs cancels a lot of those turnover-free possessions out.

the problem, of course, is that considering the amount of pass attempts hes had...it wasnt all that impressive. he was next to jay cutler and colt mccoy in terms of int%

 

[Heelmatic]

You've already been hit with the stats that show the defense playing better shows the cause. Glancing at the some of these boxscores, I'm about to hit you with the time of possession stats for your claim that Tebow was keeping the team on the field and not turning the ball over (of course not, they didn't trust him to throw it )

I know they averaged 28 or 29 minutes a game, 3 less than the defense. I know they had a lot of 3 & outs. I also know he didn't turn the ball over. Whether they trusted him to throw it or not, he didn't turn it over. The one game he had 3 ints, the defense gave up 33 points(40 total but 1 td was a pic 6) to Buffalo. That's something they could've looked forward to all season with Orton.

Fact is, the QB change made the team better. Say it however you want but the team got better. There is NO arguing that. All I'm saying is Tebow got a raw deal. Idk how many games he started in 2010 but he started 13 games total in 2011, so all together probably a full season. Are we saying, in a similar offense he had no chance of improving? He never had a chance to start in New York, Ryan wasn't gonna let that happen. I think he earned the right to compete for a starting job.

 

[concise]

I know they had a lot of 3 & outs. I also know he didn't turn the ball over. Whether they trusted him to throw it or not, he didn't turn it over.

bolded - Awesome.

Non-bolded is also awesome because we all know how many turnovers QBs cause by fumbling the ball instead of throwing interceptions.

 

[yseJ]

He never had a chance to start in New York, Ryan wasn't gonna let that happen. I think he earned the right to compete for a starting job.

thats your speculation.
people have told you that tebow has looked like the worst qb in practices.

a lot of teams with not good qb essentially have competitions in practice. tebow has lost his both in denver and new york.

 

[havoc]

Tebow got treated like a nikka. Plain and simple no two ways about it. After what he did in Denver he deserved to start somewhere.

Professional teams want a QB that knows how to throw a football onto the hands of a receiver and have the IQ to dissect a defense. TeBow have none of those attributes to earn him a starting position.

 

[Heelmatic]

bolded - Awesome.

Non-bolded is also awesome because we all know how many turnovers QBs cause by fumbling the ball instead of throwing interceptions.

You can punt after a 3 and out. Not the same as a turnover, sorry. How many fumbles did he lose?

 

[HHR]

Yall must know something about football that I don't

Well, I think we can wrap the conversation up here.

 

[Dwolf]

He can't throw and had no business being in the NFL..

I thought you were talking bout Mark Sanchez My mistake

 

[Dwolf]

Professional teams want a QB that knows how to throw a football onto the hands of a receiver and have the IQ to dissect a defense. TeBow have none of those attributes to earn him a starting position.

Neither did the person you was playing back up to

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Tebow has no business STARTING in the NFL,he can compete for a starting job.In all honesty he should have beat out Sanchez last year.Regardless if Rex liked him or not (nh). If Jags dont bring him in by training camp his career is pretty much over,Jags should at least give him a shot.If he cant compete or beat out Blain Gabbert then its over Jets did do him dirty in a way,he was brought in for ticket sales. However in all honesty it was up to HIM to win the starting job away from Sanchez.