so your argument is "Phonte says so, so it must be true".
I hope as a adult male you dont live your life that way.
What youre really trying to say is Babyface has more commercial appeal (white people like him)...so he aint black enough for you.
fukk out of here w/ that bullshyt thinking.
If youre old enough to remember the 80s and 90s then youre old enough to know black folks fuked w/ Face.
Cats will talk about "jams" and then bring up one of MJs most generic songs (Remember the Times) to give Teddy Riley a point.
Not to go in between you guys argument but let's appreciate both dudes however teddy situation vastly different than Babyface.
Teddy Introduced a new underground urban dance/hip hop style that and out the gate Babyface produced and added his musical genius to an already an R&B circuit. Teddy produced more
rap songs cause he from that hip hop cloth. there was a time hip hop wasnt respected.
Babyface cant do what teddy do in the hip hop spectrum. he did try with Jay Z but that wasnt Babyface strengths
Although Teddy has crossover hits and his legacy giving Neptune's a chance to shine when he moved to Virgina.
However, No one can match Babyface catalog. Babyface perfected his style very polished smooth classy in an already established R&B arena except Babyface did it perfectly. Teddy was more for jamming and Babyface more for hits like Phonte said. both needed in musical history.
For club urban jams playing in clubs many dj had teddy music on rotation cause Teddy did good number of hip hop based songs as well genre as a hip hop producer most folks don't know . Babyface his music had more crossover appeal both legends and contributed their strengths on their own lane.
Like Phone said, one person had hits and the other person had jams.