Teens are fleeing religion like never before: Massive new study exposes religion’s decline
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First an foremost, the church (a group or body of Christians) provide people like you and me (who aren't perfect) with the gift of news (grace). This graces states that regardless of the filth that you and I have rolled in we can be forgiven of them, as long as we actively repent and hold that life apart from Christ is death. [
This isn't me preaching to you- its just me giving you an example] Second, the church (again a body of Christians) provides support to those that struggle. I've known folks that struggled with alcohol addiction, drug addiction
, sexual impurity, etc. They aren't there to bash those individuals that struggle with it, because chances are they themselves struggled with similar problems before coming to Christ. The church is there to bare the burden of the individual and be a shoulder to lean on.Third, the church operates as group of servants- by committing to service. To truly take on one of the main characteristics of Jesus
, you gotta be humble. More than often this comes by serving others in a variety and countless number of ways.In short those are positive things that take place in a functioning body of Christ (church). Now those few things that I stated are all under the circumstance that the church group is not full bad intentions and/or foul. I keep a small circle (10-15) brothers that hold me accountable of my faith and help me study the word. Iron sharpens iron.
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First an foremost, the church (a group or body of Christians) provide people like you and me (who aren't perfect) with the gift of news (grace). This graces states that regardless of the filth that you and I have rolled in we can be forgiven of them, as long as we actively repent and hold that life apart from Christ is death. [
Second, the church (again a body of Christians) provides support to those that struggle. I've known folks that struggled with alcohol addiction, drug addiction
Third, the church operates as group of servants- by committing to service. To truly take on one of the main characteristics of Jesus
In short those are positive things that take place in a functioning body of Christ (church). Now those few things that I stated are all under the circumstance that the church group is not full bad intentions and/or foul. I keep a small circle (10-15) brothers that hold me accountable of my faith and help me study the word. Iron sharpens iron.
So basically people are pieces of shyt and have no moral compass without the Church? Thats what you're trying to say, right?
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That's basically the defining idea of Christianity.
People are inherently evil/sinful and need Jesus/church to fix them. It is what it is.
Its comical how these 'devils' disguise themselves as servants of God. If you need a 'higher power' to be a decent person then you're really just a piece of shyt.
With that said, I'm all for the religious nuts to stay religious. These are typically weak people - weak minds, weak principles, weak intelligence. They need the social construct of the Church and religion to be 'normal and decent' people. Even the religious posters in here can't fathom how people can be kind and just without religion. Thats honestly scary to me. I can just imagine all of these Christians going ham when they find out Christ is never returning.
ORDER_66
I am The Wrench in all your plans....
@ thinking any war was ever over religion.
You are completely taking my words out of context. In no way did I say that without the Church a person has no moral compass. I won't say that we are pieces of shyt, but in the Bible God even refers to the most religious acts as used tamponsSo basically people are pieces of shyt and have no moral compass without the Church? Thats what you're trying to say, right?
(Isaiah 64:6). Ultimately, if you believe in God just a lil' bit, you have to come to the understanding that without God, we are nothing and basically doomed. Believing in God is only a fraction though. This is all simplified by the way. Don't wanna bore anyone to death.
The Crusades were fought over land and resources.
ill
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You are completely taking my words out of context. In no way did I say that without the Church a person has no moral compass. I won't say that we are pieces of shyt, but in the Bible God even refers to the most religious acts as used tampons
We are human therefore we are doomed. Its called nature. Call nature your God cuz its really the all encompassing omnipotent presence that you guys seek out through the Bible. Its literally right in front of you just people like you need a higher power to believe in this world. Also, I'm not just attacking you - my post was in regards to all the bible thumpers in here.
You're saying that in no way did you say people outside of the Church have no moral compass but then you go on to say that we are nothing and are doomed without a belief in God. Thats basically saying we are all pieces of shyt unless we believe in your fairy tale. I don't believe in God and Im beyond generous and kind in my life. My moral compass was created by my family, friends, and society. No part of my morality was created in a Church or temple.
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Homosexuality is bad, mmmkay. - The Vatican
:ignores Church leaders homosexually raping little children:
Look at you all excited.What are you talking about? The number of people who reject religion grows every single year and will continue too. The trend is crystal clear.
What I said is fact.
More people reject christanity, but most people remain spiritual.
Im not even Christian and do not promote it....
But the number of atheist isn't increasing. ......
Will always remain a tiny fraction.
Meanwhile number of Muslims increases. .... along w people who believe but not affiliated
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
That's just a bunch of fluff. Whether people call themselves "atheists" as a label or not isn't really relevant. Y'all call me an atheist and I don't call myself one. The relevant point is people are fleeing religion at an increasing rate. It's the dogma of religion, and of blind adherence to supernatural causation and meaning that has tangible effects on society. That is declining. If someone calls themselves "spiritual but not religious" rather than "atheist," but isn't looking for God as causation for everything and basically keeps their beliefs a private matter as far as action goes, there isn't much of a net difference for society between them and atheists.
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You can call it nature, believers will continue to call it God. We're adults here we don't have to agree, but simply come to an understanding/respect of one another. You're not just attacking me? I'm offended.
If you feel that I attacked you in any way that wasn't my intent. My only objective was to answer the question you posed without over reaching or stepping on any toes. A Christian relying on a moral compass defeats the purpose of believing in the Gospel.The point I was trying to make (according to my faith) is that life after death is a gift only granted by God to those who he sees as His children/heirs. Please be advised that even people who are a Christians can be shyt while they believe in God yet act like a heathen- there should be no sense of entitlement because they still sin daily. (picture a Christian man who continues to steal even when he knows it is not of God to take what it is not yours). If you believe that being generous and kind will reap you the benefits that you desire, then that's fine too- I'm not in any position to shame or look down on anyone regardless of how they carry themselves.