Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
dish out obscene levels of ether, brehs
No disrespect intended. I'm just always surprised to hear people say American law is based on the Bible, let alone the Ten Commandments, specifically.
Ten Commandments monument destroyed day after installation at Arkansas Capitol
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No disrespect intended. I'm just always surprised to hear people say American law is based on the Bible, let alone the Ten Commandments, specifically.
McTwerk
Dreams and Nightmares
If you need the words written in a stone to tell you how to be a good person in society, you lost.
Religion is the single most dangerous thing man has ever created. Do you know how many awful things have happened in human history as a result of religion? Mass Tortures, Genocide, Wars, Suppressing Populations and People, Inquisitions, Corruption, Child Molestation, Terrorism.....the list goes on and on.
fukk all religions. Hope I live to see the day when they are outlawed worldwide and anyone caught practicing them are burned at the stake like a witch trial.
Religion is the single most dangerous thing man has ever created. Do you know how many awful things have happened in human history as a result of religion? Mass Tortures, Genocide, Wars, Suppressing Populations and People, Inquisitions, Corruption, Child Molestation, Terrorism.....the list goes on and on.
fukk all religions. Hope I live to see the day when they are outlawed worldwide and anyone caught practicing them are burned at the stake like a witch trial.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
I don't have a problem with religion as far as what your beliefs are, but when your beliefs interfere with the progression of the human race and interfere with the pursuit of happiness of others, you need to be bushed, and that's the problem right now.
America is and was always supposed to be the country where all that religious shyt was tolerated but only so far as allowing you to practice your beliefs in peace, not hook line and sinker trying to adapt religious dogma and doctrine into the fukking fabric of our society. That's when it's gone too far IMO.
Putting up the Ten Commandments on ANY government property is a clear violation of the separation of church and state and the only reason it's allowed is because Christian nutjobs are allowed to reason that prohibiting such a thing is infringing on their freedom of expression or right to practice, which I think is absurd.
You got people out here thinking the world is flat or that it's only 6000 years old. You're holding back the human race with that bullshyt.
And they're trying to enact religion friendly laws that will allow for these things to be taught in the states, and then pushed out into the rest of the country with the sons and daughters of these idiots going to schools where instead of learning science and math and progressing fields like medicine and technology, where the foundations are built off logic and reason as opposed to some fukking book written thousands of years ago, they'll be telling their professors that the Earth is the same fukking age as China, and that it's their right to believe this, so you need to adapt the exams to accept said idiotic points of view.
We keep indulging in this foolishness and one day the rest of the world that doesn't give into this nonsense (India, China, etc.) will eventually pass us by and we'll end up wondering how the fukk we got here.
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Same people who love the idea of this and had no problem with it would be tripping if it were a monument of sharia lawkeep religion and state separate
If America were a Muslim country and had a Muslim majority then I honestly wouldn't mind.
Turk
Young, Gifted, and Black
America is a secular country though. Who the majority is doesn't matter.
Unconstitutional. Americans can have any God or gods they want.
Unconstitutional. Americans have freedom of speech, including artwork, and can install any art they want on their private property.
Unconstitutional. Americans can say anything, barring calls for violence that present a clear and present danger.
Unconstitutional. Americans can do whatever they want on Saturdays. Most of them seem to think Sunday is the Sabbath, too.
Unconstitutional. You can't be legally compelled to be nice to your parents. It's generally a good idea, but some parents are real a$$holes and shouldn't be honored. The Biblical figure Lot, for example. When a gang of rapists came to his house and demanded the butt cheeks of the men who were staying with him, Lot said "You can't rape my guests. Here, have my daughters instead."
Unless God tells you to.
Ask my attorney.
Unconstitutional. Coveting is free expression.
Well outside US jurisdiction. And Hammurabi already erected stones with laws on them. Hov is a biter in ancient times and modern.
@Anwulika In summary, this is why Ten Commandments monuments keep getting taken down from government areas. It's an establishment of religion that's not allowable by US law. The law is secular, with occasional lip service to ceremonial deism, and some wiggle room for traditional religious civil arbitration.
I have no issue with secular law, in fact, I support it in certain instances. However, this was an act of terrorism so I cannot condone it. If the terrorist had gone through legal means to take down the monument then I honestly wouldn't have cared but he didn't so I, and every other Christian, have the right to feel indignant about it.
You're just as ignorant and intolerant as the people you claim to hate. Many of these things have happened and will continue to happen without any religious doctrines.
AndroidHero
Superstar
Act of terrorism? Come on breh, what he did was against the law and he was arrested and he will get punished for it, but that monument shouldn't have been there in the first place.
You said that the people who have no problem with this would be annoyed if it was an Islamic monument so I said that if America had a Muslim majority and thus a general consensus on it then I honestly wouldn't mind. You can still be a secular country and have some traditional/religious embellishments in your governing of the country. There's levels to secularism imo. Let's be honest here, do you really think that America's majority Christian population hasn't had an affect on the way it's been governed?
McTwerk
Dreams and Nightmares
Difference is I don't pretend to be tolerant cause it's a righteous, God's word thing to do while being intolerant of others beliefs behind closed doors, in my private circles, etc.
Religion is dangerous. I'll wear that on my sleeve forever.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
His" ignorance and intolerance" isn't backed by the state. Why do you support the ten commandments on state property funded by I'm assuming taxpayers?
Act of terrorism? Come on breh, what he did was against the law and he was arrested and he will get punished for it, but that monument shouldn't have been there in the first place.
What else would you call someone purposely driving into a state/religious monument? Or is the crime less serious because the perpetrator is most likely atheist/non-believer and the target, a Christian monument?
AndroidHero
Superstar
Difference is I don't pretend to be tolerant cause it's a righteous, God's word thing to do while being intolerant of others beliefs behind closed doors, in my private circles, etc.
Religion is dangerous. I'll wear that on my sleeve forever.
Wait a minute... you claim that religion is dangerous for supposedly supporting the same rhetoric that you yourself adhere to. Does that make any sense to you?
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Vandalism?
Definitely not terrorism.
Nope. The man used violence to spread his political message, without a care for his or others' safety. This is terrorism and the perpetrator is an extremist. I hope he gets the book thrown at him.