Missed their chance to do it @ the deadline, East will be better next year with the Bulls and Hawks returning with healthier players and also potential FAs.
The Magic & Sixers are positioned much better for the future, especially the Magic.
Terrence Ross is a potential elite defender.
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Missed their chance to do it @ the deadline, East will be better next year with the Bulls and Hawks returning with healthier players and also potential FAs.
The Magic & Sixers are positioned much better for the future, especially the Magic.
yup it sucks but toronto hasnt been in the playoffs for 5 years, so there sacrificing the future for 1 or 2 rounds and playoff revenue
yup it sucks but toronto hasnt been in the playoffs for 5 years, so there sacrificing the future for 1 or 2 rounds and playoff revenue
But moving forward they're gonna end up missing them again in the near future, or just being food for higher seeds.
yup it sucks but toronto hasnt been in the playoffs for 5 years, so there sacrificing the future for 1 or 2 rounds and playoff revenue
You do realize playoff experience develops the future that we DO have, right?
And besides, the playoffs can really up the trade value of our players, so if we really have to, we can trade Derozan on draft night, similar to how the Sixers traded away Jrue Holiday.
You do realize playoff experience develops the future that we DO have, right?
And besides, the playoffs can really up the trade value of our players, so if we really have to, we can trade Derozan on draft night, similar to how the Sixers traded away Jrue Holiday.
LMFAO......you are retarded
a dime a dozen huh?
who me all these sf's putting up DD's number while only being paid 10 mil a year....
shyt just show me all these guys putting up DD and lowry numbers period..
You do realize playoff experience develops the future that we DO have, right?
And besides, the playoffs can really up the trade value of our players, so if we really have to, we can trade Derozan on draft night, similar to how the Sixers traded away Jrue Holiday.
Getting washed in the 2nd round by the Pacers or Heat isn't a great playoff experience, or even worse they lose in the first round
I don't know, there are some teams in the bottom of the East with some promising rosters, I mean the Magic have more talent right now. And worst of all, Lowry is gonna want a big contract for getting that team to the playoffs.
Getting washed in the 2nd round by the Pacers or Heat isn't a great playoff experience, or even worse they lose in the first round
I don't know, there are some teams in the bottom of the East with some promising rosters, I mean the Magic have more talent right now. And worst of all, Lowry is gonna want a big contract for getting that team to the playoffs.
I don't think he's going to get that big contract, especially with so many teams being locked into a starter already and those who have the cap space in the offseason are not going to be interested in Lowry. But I agree, this team is on that 2006-07 road to nowhere. They needed to tank this year to get a franchise player and Masai half-assed it by not trading Lowry right away. This Raptors team reminds me too much of those late 2000 Atlanta teams...a lot of great young talent, but they're not really good enough to go far and none of those talents are franchise changing.
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Even with horford healthy, I think the raptors are better than the hawks. Man to everybody that tell the raptors to blow it up, fukk em. That's why basketball will never be as popular as football. Who the fukk wants to watch their team in the tank wars every year.
I keep telling ppl and I know better than anybody(as well as anybody who has played organized competitive sports), all that constant losing can be cultivated. And nobody wants to stick around for that bullshyt. You know how hard it is to get rid of that losing culture. You basically have to redo the roster almost. Players lose hope and get contempt. Especially the young and inexperince who are molded in just environment.
What happens when they blow it up? Tell me ur plan cuz all that's goin to happen is they push themselves back 5 more year.
No offense to you but I think it's easier for cats like you and gilscott to preach that tankin bullshyt because y'all don't root a specific team so u don't go through pain and agony of perrenial losing.
Toronto has gotten better under Casey every year and will continue to do so. Atlanta won't get better. They were overachieving before the injuries piled on.
Chicago won't ever be the same again because rose won't. And they're about to go through the same agonizing process houston went through after 09 playoffs. They won't be able to get another "Rose" because their coach won't allow the team to be that terrible under their watch.
Washington is a average team. What u see now is their max. It's the same as what u saw last season when wall returned. They'll get worst once they lose ariza this offseason
Knicks are washed.
Philly is a ways away. Because they'll always trade some of their best young pieces who are died for payday because hey don't want to pay that big money during a rebuilding phase. Every year they'll be another Hawes and Thomas for this squad. Just a year ago them two were part of their core. Before Hawes and ET is was Jrue. Next year young will be trade and the process will be repeat again the following year. Tell em u see this pattern and see it recurring. Phillys' rebuilding process is a fallacy and a scam.
The magic might be position but they still have a ices to make to build upon their team and before they make them moves they'll probably make moves to dismember their team instead. Their top player is afflalo and I'm pretty sure he'll be traded in 2015 or by 2015
The atlactic Division can be the raptors' for the taking for the next 2-3 years. Even longer if they keep building up their roster.
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getting to the second round after being out of the playoffs for so long would be HUGE for player experienceGetting washed in the 2nd round by the Pacers or Heat isn't a great playoff experience, or even worse they lose in the first round
I don't know, there are some teams in the bottom of the East with some promising rosters, I mean the Magic have more talent right now. And worst of all, Lowry is gonna want a big contract for getting that team to the playoffs.
what are you talking about?
especially considering that the core of this team is under 25
stop bruh, they can't hear you anyway
tanking year after year just makes more losing. it rarely shows to work.
the raps have a CORE. why would they want/need to blow that up?
they are actually building something good. now these dudes want to blow it up? shake my head
I hate raps fans, I hate ALL Toronto fans. some of the most ignorant and overreactional and emotional fans in all of sports.
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Time to go!!
Yeah i agree. I tell ppl all the time losing can be just as easily cultivated as winning. Raptor will win at least 45 game a year as is the next 2 -3 years and more if they rebuild. They just have to keep their eyes out for disgruntled talent lookin for a next destinated( like Lowry)and be agressive while continuing to develop their talents youngs.
The difference between the 06-07 team and this team is that this is a team filled with young players still improving, whereas the 06-07 team had many veterans. Believe in Masai, breh.
The Hawks were unquestionably the 3rd best team in the East before Horford got hurt and it took a gang of injuries lately for them to fall out of the playoff race. Every year people said for the Raptors to blow it up and they never did, and now that the East is historically bad this is the year they will get in the playoffs and you think it's wise to build around a core that's overachieving only because of how bad the conference is right now?
Blowing it up for them would have just meant moving Lowry, he's having a career year in a contract season, that alone should give you pause.
And you're speaking as a fan of a team that can get free agents to sign with them, the Raptors are in a spot where they will never land the number 1 free agent on the market. Where is the star player supposed to come from for the Raps, they are still a player or two away and even with the growth of Ross and Val they still wont be enough.
They weren't overachieving and the Hawks will also have caproom, they themselves could offer Lowry money
Chicago could land Melo this offseason and probably has the best shot of it, they are currently .5 game behind the Raptors without Rose, saying they wont get better is insane considering how they are doing right now. As long as they have Noah and Thibs they will remain good, if they get Melo and bring over Mirotic, someone who is labeled the best player in Europe, how do you think that would work out?
They have caproom this summer, and how can this be their max when their 2 best players are under 24?
Who is denying that?
Hinkie took over in May 2013, he basically did what any GM should do when coming into a shyt situation, he moved almost everyone that wasn't apart of the core he wanted. The only player he kept was realistically the best of the bunch which is Young. Why are you referencing Hawes and Turner being a part of the core, when Hinkie had nothing to do with getting those players in the first place?
Nah, their top player is Oladipo, they have caproom and lottery pick(s) coming their way. They lack experience and a PG, whose to say they don't sign Lowry? What exactly happens to the future of the Raps if a team like the Magic decides they want a PG and pay him slightly more for his services, the Raps will be back at square 1.
It's too bad the best teams in the East are in the central and southeast, winning the atlantic only to get your shyt squashed means very little.