This is an example of what is problematic about faith based logic, there are no 'personal definitions' outside of a casual conversation, if you mean to make a point and have it stand up to scrutiny you have to use the widely accepted definitions of fire and worship. Fire is a real physical thing before it is a man made ideal. 'More beneath the surface' is spirituality and symbolism, it is subjective and not based on evidence. Thanks for the convo.
Just because you say there aren't doesn't mean it's true for everyone. It's just true for you.
If you take just speech into account, you will understand why logic is a poor foundation for spiritual things.
Definitions are constantly changing for many things and knowledge is being developed at an intense rate globally, like fire. You say its this and its that but all you are really doing is trying to reduce the emphasis it has to you because this is the feeling you're used to.
Don't let the fire go out so easily, maybe emphasis is what you need to address.
