Tha 213 Demo Tape in it's entirety and the truth about the "Over The Counter" album

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    Anybody got any Information on that? They say "Long Beach Iz A Muthafucca" was a pretty poppin' ass Single back in tha day but they ain't never put that shyt out, only that 10 second clip.


    Anybody else know what was on there too? Another question I had was does anybody have a Bigger/Better picture of the original comic strip that came with that whole "Over The Counter" mystery? I think there used to be one floating around but that was many moons ago...
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    (i think there was more to it also but i could be wrong)

    Also, it's obvious that the version of "Do U Remember" that's been floating around wasn't the one from back in those days either. In the song he clearly says it's 1998, but on the "On The Counter" that would've obviously had to have been done sooner.


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    Thanks if any of y'all can help. Maybe "Over The Counter" actually came from something

    BTW, did anybody ever run a scan on that Barcode?





     
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    :ohhh: never even heard of this or these tracks

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    All I know is that Snoop had a fair amount of material (for a Rapper) recorded at that time. There was alot leading up to "Doggystyle" (the original album), Future Shock went thru a lot of shyt in the beginning.

    213 were allegedly pretty poppin back in tha day and were pretty well known in their area of Southern California. They worked with alot of people. Those folks included D.J. Glaze, Tha Twinz, Big Mike and Mr. 3-2, Dr. Dre himself, Above The Law, and others.


    Which kinda trips me out becuz everybody can dig up Ice Cube's old shyt from The C.I.A. back when it was just him and his cousin Jinx & Dr. Dre but nobody can dig up 213's old projects. You'd figure since Warren G is a DeeJay that he'd have a copy but apparently not? ?


    Idk tho, that's what I'm tryna figure out
     
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    That episode 1 track you posted is the 213 demo tape...
    Its snoop & warren trading rhymes over this beat but it runs for 7 and a half minutes...
    The Over the counter tape was never fully leaked or nobody from back in the days ever put in online in its entirety so there are only
    -Let Em Understand
    -The Message
    -187 (Its On)
    -True To Tha Game
    -Do you remember
    -County Blues

    floating around. All the other tracks on the tracklist and cover havent been leaked so far :to:

    Also checked the other tracks on your channel, there are only some interludes and intros I didn't knew
    For example "G Thang Part 2" is the next episode, that "Dope Slang Symphony" is a freestyle from a death row dvd, "Gz And Hustlaz" Remix is "Every Single Day" and so on, ou should probably rename some of those to avoid false hopes for people checkin for the tracks...
     
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    That's not "Do U Remember" tho. I pointed that out. He even say the year in the song. And "Tha Next Episode" that everybody's been hollarin' about is "Tha Next Episode" ain't "Tha Next Episode" :russ:.


    There's alotta holes in the information that's been available on Snoop for quite a while now. Alotta people didn't even know that he used to be around Ruthless Studios before those Vlad interviews
     
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    Over the Counter has been proven to be a fake. Someone on the Dubcc forum broke it down several years ago. The cover uses a font that wasn't available until Windows 95 came out.

    Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
     
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    Similar conclustion I came to the second I heard "Do U Remember". That doesn't mean that the whole thing is fake tho. There might be something on it or things about it that indeed are Relative. The question is what??
     
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    Whole thing is fake.
    • "Let em Understand Perfection", "True to the Game", "The Message", and most likely "County Blues" were all demo tracks made before Snoop linked up with Dre. Given the instrumental, could even make a case Snoop recorded "County Blues" in 89 or 90.
    • Kurupt was doing pop tracks with SOS Band in 1991 () and didn't appear on the DR scene until after these tracks would have been recorded
    • Nothing has ever come up with the bar code scan
    • Death Row launch party was in February 1992. Why would anyone launching a label that has a member of one of the biggest rap groups of that era decide, as the label's first official project, to release an album in Canada months before from an artist who had very limited exposure to the mainstream?
     
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    SOS Band tho :russ:



    See, right there, that. That's the thing. You just assumed that all of those tracks were for a Demo. Problem with that is what Demo exactly are you talking about? Are we talking about Snoop's demo, Tha Foesum's demo, "The Chronic" demo, or the 213 demo.



    Snoop was "always" around. He was best friends with the nikka whose brother be Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre and Eazy-E were around everybody! So he kinda had to have been plugged in some type of way. Becuz when "Tha Message" is better mixed you can actually hear that it's not a Freestyle/Early 00's Mixtape Rapper Song.


    "A Gangsta'z Life 1992" has the best Quality of all of the songs ever put out that you can't just "get off youtube".
     
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    Given the tracks Snoop recorded with DJ Glaze and them, you can immediately rule out "The Chronic" Demo (since none of the artists on or associated with DR at that time appeared on those tracks, nor is there any Dre appearance) and the 213 demo (entirely separate tape) right off the bat.

    You're not using logic here; you can get wishy washy about what if's, but the truth of the matter is this tape is 100% fiction. If it's not, please explain away the other two points I mentioned that you ignored:
    • Nothing has ever come up with the bar code scan
    • Death Row launch party was in February 1992. Why would anyone launching a label that has a member of one of the biggest rap groups of that era decide, as the label's first official project, to release an album in Canada months before from an artist who had very limited exposure to the mainstream?
     
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    Because "Death Row" didn't exist until December 91'/February 92'. Before then it was all "Future Shock Records/Godfather Entertainment".


    Snoopy and them were "always" around like I and Cold 187um and others have always always noted. Which is why songs like "County Blues 91'" has a certain Sound to it. Because if you listen carefully and study the style it's very Above The Law'esc. And I'd even entertain the idea that he had a hand in "Deep Cover 2 [Kill Anotha Cop]". And if that one wasn't Produced By Cold 187um then Warren G or Chris "The Glove" Taylor had a hand in that. Which means it was all Produced in the same era.

    "nikkaz Iz Like That" was actually recorded in 91'/92' as well. "Life N A Day" by Chocolate was actually supposed to come out before "The Chronic" but it didn't go down that way. Chocolate was supposed to be the first to come out on Death Row, not Dr. Dre. Which is probably where alot of your confusion sets in.
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    You can even entertain the idea that "Playin' 4 Keepz" was recorded around the same time too. Rap-A-Lot and Death Row were all pretty tight in the beginning. Just based off of the sample it's plausible that it's one of the first songs ever recorded on Death Row Records.

    "Let 'Em Understand" was recorded before "The Chronic" also. Dre even mentions the song on "Nuthin' But A 'G' Thang Part 1". That song was also Produced By D.J. Glaze, he was also part of Tha Foesum. This is the same D.J. Glaze that Produced "The Message".

    And when it comes to "The Message", Snoop's vocals sound very similar to the ones on "Episode 1-(213)". The same song one that someone named "7 Minute Freestyle" years ago that We All assume comes from the 213 Demo Tape


    "A Gangsta'z Life" was also the working title before "Doggystyle".



    And to answer your question. Honestly, that's irrelevant to the situation at that point in time. You could've asked in 86'/87' "why would N.W.A. sign to a Label like Priority Records?". You don't know why anyone like them would but they did. And Dr. Dre wasn't the same Artist he was during those times, N.W.A. was all about Ice Cube, Eazy-E, and The D.O.C.. Even Ren was on a higher caliber back then. Dr. Dre without D.J. Yella or Eazy-E was unheard of. People were barely used to him without Ice Cube, let alone Snoop Doggy Dogg. shyt was different
     
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    So if "Death Row" didn't exist until 1992, why would they release something in 1991?

    1 starring this thread and negging for stirring up bullshyt that doesn't exist. :camby:
     

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