Thanks to the anti-Democrat left! Labor Unions dealt a major blow by SCOTUS

[Paper Boi]

But that's not what happened.

yeah and the 'anti-democrat' left isn't the reason hillary lost the election.

a larger % of sanders supporters voted for hillary in the general election than hillary primary voters voted for obama in 2008.


so let's all keep playing with our imaginary narratives.

 

[Shogun]

Summertime isn't the same under Trump

The squad is right on time

 

[ineedsleep212]

Justice Kennedy is retiring. The fact that we didn't get Garland and now this dude is retiring and RBG is very up there in age. WHAT THE fukk!!!

 

[88m3]

Quit wasting time on me and go fight the good fight dapping nap up

Why should corporations have more power than unions and citizens?

 

[the cac mamba]

Municipal debt is a major issue. However let us not be ignorant of what is at stake here. Unions contribute to Dems by a lot. Weakening the unions ability to raise money will effect elections. In the age of Cotizens United corporations will raise billions for the GOP to stem the demographic bloodbath they is about hit them in 15-20 years from now. Also it will weaken their political power. This means when the age of austerity comes to these states Republican governors can cut and slash public worker pensions with not political consequences. In Europe with the debt crisis with austerity the European govts can only go so far until they anger the people whose pensions are being touched while millionaires and billionaires go Scott free. With this decision Unions will be weaker and state and local governments led by Republicans can go full mode on their version of austerity. The end goal to destroy the middle class while enriching the corporations.

you're aware that you could rob those "millionaires and billionaires" of all their money and it wouldnt solve the pension crisis, right? im all for bernie rhetoric but it's not cute anymore when illinois is about to tank and these fukkin unions would shut down over any suggestion of changing the rules for new members. i dont even want to touch anyones pension who already signed for it i do want the promises changed going forward if your solution is "gee let me just pull money outta my ass"

That not what happened here or why pensions are underfunded.

You don't know what you're talking about.

then why dont the democrats who take these contributions from unions get the fukkin funding right? im not gonna be put in a position where im a bad person for asking this question this thread is real circular

 

[Shogun]

Why should corporations have more power than unions and citizens?

Miss the point entirely, brehs.

 

[88m3]

Miss the point entirely, brehs.

still waiting for you to make one


want me to get the crayons?

 

[the cac mamba]

Why should corporations have more power than unions and citizens?

compelling stuff here

"unions good, corporations bad!!" that'll find 250 billion dollars no problem

 

[Pressure]

then why dont the democrats who take these contributions from unions get the fukkin funding right? im not gonna be put in a position where im a bad person for asking this question this thread is real circular

The issue isn't really that simple. It's also due in part to expecting higher returns on the investments when they make promises. Insert a recession or two and then you have an underfunded pension. Neither of which really has to due with the validity of unions.

 

[hashmander]

But that's not what happened.

it's much more comforting to tell themselves that.

and then you have that "i would have voted for bernie" have your cake and eat it too motherfukker @the cac mamba .

would have voted for bernie if they didn't fix it for hillary libertarian and conservative policies seem to appeal to me the most.

such a tough decision.

 

[GunRanger]

This affects public unions only correct?

 

[the cac mamba]

The issue isn't really that simple. It's also due in part to expecting higher returns on the investments when they make promises. Insert a recession or two and then you have an underfunded pension. Neither of which really has to due with the validity of unions.

well that sounds like a bullshyt ass way to set up a pension plan, and the results have spoken for themselves

this is not gonna be solved by putting David Koch in a guillotine. i'd give anything for that to be the case, but it just isn't. how about giving public employees a 20% raise up front and cutting their pensions by 35%? what's your counter to a suggestion like that

it's much more comforting to tell themselves that.

and then you have that "i would have voted for bernie" have your cake and eat it too motherfukker @the cac mamba .

would have voted for bernie if they didn't fix it for hillary libertarian and conservative policies seem to appeal to me the most.

such a tough decision.

on this issue they do. i didnt know i was obligated to agree with the dems on every issue to lean left thanks for clearing that up

 

[hashmander]

This affects public unions only correct?

public sector unions were the only ones worth a damn today. private sector unions have already been gutted to a shell of their former selves.

 

[hashmander]

well that sounds like a bullshyt ass way to set up a pension plan, and the results have spoken for themselves

this is not gonna be solved by putting David Koch in a guillotine. i'd give anything for that to be the case, but it just isn't. how about giving public employees a 20% raise up front and cutting their pensions by 35%? what's your counter to a suggestion like that

on this issue they do. i didnt know i was obligated to agree with the dems on every issue to lean left thanks for clearing that up

if you lean left it's on the things where libertarians and the left agree, like weed. to lean left you actually have to lean left.

 

[Pressure]

well that sounds like a bullshyt ass way to set up a pension plan, and the results have spoken for themselves

this is not gonna be solved by putting David Koch in a guillotine. i'd give anything for that to be the case, but it just isn't. how about giving public employees a 20% raise up front and cutting their pensions by 35%? what's your counter to a suggestion like that

Back to the main point, this ruling has nothing to do with the validity of pensions.

The NFLPA and NBAPA both have pensions that are doing just fine.