That 2011 finals LeBron..

[Sccit]

Wade was horrible in the Finals last year. Lazy defense, horrible efficiency, he had no business being on the court.

BOSH WAS HORRIBLE TOO...BUT GUESS WHAT, AFTER LEBRON LEFT THE TEAM, BOSH LOOKED LIKE A SUPERSTAR AGAIN. WHAT DOES THAT TELL U ABOUT LEBRON?

 

[Brozay]

Born in raised in Chicago. Saw every bulls championship and went to grant park to see every parade. Remember when Detroit folks use to dog us out cause Jordan couldn't get past them. Remember SI articles saying you could never win with MJ because he was a bog hog. Man I could go on and on.

Dude was great but folks just don't realize how much heavy lifting pippen did for the bulls as Jordan got older and pip let MJ focus on scoring because he could do all the little things.

Man I envy you for getting to live through that in the Chi .. I was too young to appreciate the first 3 peat, and just coming into my own as a sports fan for the 2nd

 

[smitty22]

AND ARE ANY OF THEM ON THE LEVEL OF MAGIC, KAREEM, KOBE, MJ, BIRD?


POINT PROVEN

Dream Team says so

 

[Sccit]

Dream Team says so

LOL NO

 

[Originalman]

Man I envy you for getting to live through that in the Chi .. I was too young to appreciate the first 3 peat, and just coming into my own as a sports fan for the 2nd

Great time to be in the city. That was dominance that had never been seen in Chicago since the the 1930s and 1940s with the monsters of the midway aka Chicago bears.

 

[Archangel]

Exactly dude. I am old enough to remember when rockets fans thought they could never win with hakeem. When at one time there were rumors that he was going to be traded. The Lakers swept them in 1991 I believe and the media was saying you couldn't win with Hakeem. These dude let ESPN control their minds. This shyt is not NBA jam.

Yes MJ did win 6 championships. But folks forget he played with maybe the most versitle and greatest defensive SF ever next to Lebron. And the most important thing was that Pippen was 4 years younger. Last MJ played with arguably championships wise the greatest coach ever. But Lebron running around d with Blatt, Brown and Spo.

I feel what you saying but why you acting like Phil was a HOF coach when he got to CHI? He was just a regular coach with prior experience as a player. MJ made Phil great just as much if not more than Phil made MJ great.

 

[Goat poster]

Weirdest and most inexplicable thing I've witnessed as a Miami sports fan. Don't know what hit LeBron.

I AGREE,

But Im also saying that that whole SEASON was something else.

No other team played with that much media scrutiny and pressure to win from the first day of training camp.

I think bron just ran out of gas from a tiring season a little too early.

 

[Goat poster]

I feel what you saying but why you acting like Phil was a HOF coach when he got to CHI? He was just a regular coach with prior experience as a player. MJ made Phil great just as much if not more than Phil made MJ great.

What your saying would be valid if Phil didn't go on to win even more rings without Jordan.

Every coach starts somewhere but Phil turned good teams into championship teams and is one of , if not THE GOAT COACH.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

nikkas gonna bring up bron as their goat
And imma be like, can The GOAT in any sport have 16+ losses in the finals
Not mine

Not making the playoffs is okay. Losing in the 1st round is okay. But lose those Finals games, man, you out.

I guess there goes Magic, Kareem, and Wilt then....

Barkley
Malone
Stockton
DJ
Ewing
To name a few

AND ARE ANY OF THEM ON THE LEVEL OF MAGIC, KAREEM, KOBE, MJ, BIRD?

POINT PROVEN

Magic and Kareem were ONE loss away from being .500 even though they got to play with each other for almost all of those series.

And if Magic hadn't gotten AIDS, he probably loses to Jordan another couple times and ends up 5-6.

So two top-5 players can be considered all-time greats getting a 5-4 Finals record playing together, but 1 top-5 player can't be an all-time great getting a 2-4 or 3-4 record playing alone?

You're telling me that if Duncan and Lebron, or even Garnett and Lebron, had spent 9-10 years together like Magic and Kareem did, they wouldn't have racked up championships left and right?

BOSH WAS HORRIBLE TOO...BUT GUESS WHAT, AFTER LEBRON LEFT THE TEAM, BOSH LOOKED LIKE A SUPERSTAR AGAIN. WHAT DOES THAT TELL U ABOUT LEBRON?

I'm at a complete loss trying to figure out which residents of Kobestan mean what they say and which ones are just trolling.

Bosh '13/'14 regular season: 16 and 7 on 52% shooting (12 shots/game)
Bosh '14/'15 regular season: 21 and 7 on 46% shooting (17 shots/game)

Basically, he took 5 more shots to score 5 more points. He didn't get any better. Over the 4 years he played with Lebron, though, he had become a MUCH better 3pt shooter and a MUCH better defender than he ever had been before.


Bosh '13/'14 Finals: 14 and 5 on 55% shooting
Bosh '14/'15 Finals: Oh yeah, he's not here, just like in every single other year that he didn't play with Lebron


Chris Bosh playoff games won in 4 years with Lebron: 59
Chris Bosh playoff games won in 8 years without Lebron: 3


(p.s. - people say "why didn't Lebron take more shots?" because he was hitting at 57/52/79 shooting splits. But why didn't Chris Bosh take more shots? Bosh was hitting at a 55/39/82 clip, and he only took half as many shots as Lebron! Even though Wade was falling apart, Chalmers looked horrible, and the Heat bench was worthless, offense really wasn't the Heat's biggest problem. No matter what Lebron did, they were never going to outscore the Spurs by trying harder on the offensive end. Perhaps a handful fewer possessions should have ended with Wade/Chalmers, but the truth is I don't want Lebron taking many more shots than he did, because the guys he'd really be taking them from would have been Bosh and the 3pt shooters, and those were the Heat's best hope for doing something in that series.)

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I AGREE,

But Im also saying that that whole SEASON was something else.

No other team played with that much media scrutiny and pressure to win from the first day of training camp.

I think bron just ran out of gas from a tiring season a little too early.

It was more than that. Dallas ran a brilliant defensive strategy with him:

1) Kept switching looks with Marion/Stevenson/Terry/Kidd
2) Doubled frequently to get the ball out of his hands
3) Played a confusing zone with rim protector Chandler backing them up

Everything about the Dallas strategy was meant to keep Lebron out of the paint, keep him confused and guessing, and force other players on the team to make plays. If he was going to do anything, it would have to be by shooting over the defense or by passing from up top. Lebron got flustered and played poorly, but it was the Dallas defensive strategy that forced him into it - something Boston and Chicago had been unable to do.

"He's so great, you've got to mix it up," Nowitzki said.

"The key is having multiple defenders that can give him different looks defensively," said Jason Terry, now a Houston Rocket. "Though he has very high basketball IQ, it's hard to process three or four different looks throughout the course of a game or even a series. And I thought with Dallas, we had Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, DeShawn Stevenson, guys who can defend him or give him different looks."

Everyone assigned—even Kidd and briefly Peja Stojakovic—understood the objective: Hassle and bump him early, then back off.

"What we did was we dropped into a 1-3-1 zone for the most part of the game," Butler said, "and just try to force him to take jump shots. Kind of take the decision-making out of it. We didn't want him to facilitate."

Butler had seen firsthand, when losing to James in the postseason with Washington, how, as great a scorer as James is, "his true gift and his niche is to make other guys better." So he kept telling teammates, "zone him, make him score, make him beat us with the jump shot. And, by Game 5, particularly Game 6 when we won it, it got overwhelming for him."

It wasn't really that different strategically than what San Antonio had done in 2007, it was just a bit more complex and looked different because Lebron had other guys he thought could compensate in 2011. It also wasn't much different than what Boston tried in 2012 or San Antonio tried in 2013. It's just that in 2012 Lebron defeated the strategy by banging away with brilliant inside post play, and in 2013 he defeated it with great outside shooting. Lebron's not going to get as flustered now as he did then, but it's still the best way to guard him if you have the personnel (multiple guys who can D him, a good rim protector, and ability to play the zone).

 

[Juggalo Fred]

LETS PRETEND LIKE PAU GASOL WASNT OUT IN A GAME THAT WOULDA HAD THE BULLS UP 3-1 HAD THEY WON, YOUNG HACKALINI

you were predicting the Bulls to beat the Cavs before Kevin Love was even out

 

[Sccit]

you were predicting the Bulls to beat the Cavs before Kevin Love was even out

LIES

 

[MVike28]

Few more interviews to go.

I will leverage whatever I can to help dudes

Don't forget about us breh

I would toss my 125k job in Toronto in the bushes if I can somehow get in the NBA head office

I'm Canadian doe so no PR

 

[MostReal]

Thankfully you weren't around to see Magic Johnson play like Tragic Johnson first time around facing Boston.

Oh wait!! I saw that bad series by Magic and 30 + years later, it doesn't mean shyt to his legacy.

He's 5-4 that's why, not 2-4

 

[NYC Rebel]

He's 5-4 that's why, not 2-4

So? My point is that he lost in the finals plenty of times and had shyt performances when doing so